The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
It’s required here in Portugal as well . Might be the case in other EU states , I don’t know .
A thank you to Brexiteers.
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bimble
floofy
Why did Le Pen drop the idea of frexit as one of her big plans though, if the french are so keen? She dropped it because she reckons that the people don't want it, i thought.
Unsurprisingly the implementation of it here appears to favour Tory voting demographics.
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
I think the Tories are going to need a lot of favours tbh
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
Both Le Pen and Melechon had a position which pretty much said that if elected they would pass legislation that would bring them into conflict with the EU and then let the people decide .
bimble
floofy
ye but she used to have frexit as one of her key policies and then she dropped it, to try to appeal to more voters, cos it wasn't very popular
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
I think that the success of the ‘two fingers to the EU but we will take the money ‘populist far right in government in Hungary, Poland , Italy and now Sweden has created a position whereby Le Pen , the AFD , VOX and other larger far right groups think it is possible to either have an EU which fits their political objectives or an EU that accommodates them .
bimble
floofy
but we didn't think so, despite all the special arrangements and opt outs we had to leave.
teqniq
DisMembered
This is pretty nuts:
uk.news.yahoo.com
UK Pork Producer Flies in Filipino Butchers to Replace Lost EU Workers
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The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
Absolutely, they have had five years to develop a recruitment and retention programme .This is pretty nuts:
UK Pork Producer Flies in Filipino Butchers to Replace Lost EU Workers
(Bloomberg) -- One of the UK’s biggest pork producers has spent £4 million ($4.8 million) hiring butchers from the Philippines, after a staffing crisis threatened to hamper production. Most Read from BloombergBinance’s Zhao Flags Possible $1 Billion for Distressed AssetsMalaysia PM Anwar Plans...
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
Looks like they have, tbh; they've amassed a ready trained, minimum wage workforce of predominantly younger, (fitter?), workers who will likely be less organised/more compliant and without family responsibilities. As close to transnational off-shoring as is feasible with perishable goods.
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Karl Masks
Birds Angel Delight
far left parties probably represent a tiny portion of any electorate. Whereas the far right have people in power, including here, right now. Orban, for example is in charge of Hungary: far right.
So are the reasons for the euroscepticism, which may well be on the rise, wholesome? or are they, as the article seems to suggest, based on dodgy shit. Like immigration. Something the capitalist class has no answer to when it exploits international labour. Something we're doing right now, despite leaving the EU.
I don't know how you're claiming this vindicates your position and you have still not posted an example of Brexit providing any benefits at all.
mojo pixy
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Thing is, there aren't any - not unless you fundamentally, ideologically think the UK not being in the EU is all by itself a benefit, and some people genuinely do. But that's all there is to it, there are literally zero other benefits. I don't even think anyone except Jacob Rees-Mogg is pretending otherwise any more.
A380
How do I change this 'custom title' thing then?
Ax^
Silly Rabbit
can we have the 6 counties back then , you can bring the DUP and orangemen home
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
Just because there's nothing for our class doesn't mean that the changed trading arrangements benefit no-one; there's a reason why the right have organised against UK membership of the bloc since 1961.
Ax^
Silly Rabbit
ask them if they are Irish
A380
How do I change this 'custom title' thing then?
But that would be like asking ItStillWontWork if they are European...
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
It’s almost as if they are replicating an EU type workforce
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
Same as it ever was.
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
Never liked that sort of traveller type British folk scene tbh
Puddy_Tat
happy mew year
dunno - the hedge funds seem to have done well out of it, and didn't brexit mean that some EU laws about tax avoidance didn't come in to effect in the UK?
but without the same rights that EU nationals had before brexit?
how do visas like this work? is it more like a 'guest worker' thing where if you fall out with employer, or employer decides you're redundant, then off you fuck? that would probably appeal to employers...
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
Yes, that is a benefit to capital compared with the EU FoM migrant workforce. Less secure = generally more compliant and with lower expectations, less family 'baggage' and limited ability to organise. Win, win, win for the employers
bimble
floofy
That pork factory which says 65% of their butchers used to be from ‘central Europe’, where are those butchers now? I mean they must be choosing to not come here on temporary visas so maybe they’re butchering in Germany or France instead idk whilst we get people in from further away who are willing to put up with these crappier conditions that the UK now offers.
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
Be interesting to find out
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