The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
I'll leave it to you to track down the missing Central European butchers
A thank you to Brexiteers.
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Yossarian
Get thee behind me, Santa
Not sure if it is the visa involved in this particular case, but the Seasonal Worker immigration rules were changed a year ago to include "specified pork butchery work."
According to the Seasonal Worker rules, visa holders can come to the UK for a limited time - 6 months for fruit-pickers etc, a couple of months for poultry workers, it doesn't say how long for pork butchers. The rules state:
You cannot:
- take a permanent job
- work in a second job or a job that isn’t described in your certificate of sponsorship
- get public funds
- bring family members with you
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bimble
floofy
Well, they are choosing to work somewhere with less shit working conditions is the obvious thing. So perhaps they are in Portugal.
whilst we get to eat delicious British bacon chopped up by people from the Philippines who haven’t seen their families for months. Winning.
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
A little more detail in this Times article ( not detail about the visas, unfortunately)
archive.ph
This advert is saying just under £28k for Philippine butchers so Cranswick are doing well getting them for £14k
announcement.ph
Butchers flown in by Cranswick to ease staff shortage | Business | Th…
archived 26 Nov 2022 06:13:47 UTC
This advert is saying just under £28k for Philippine butchers so Cranswick are doing well getting them for £14k
United Kingdom is looking for 8 Butchers
United Kingdom is an island country located off the northwestern coast of mainland Europe. The United Kingdom comprises the whole of the island of Great
announcement.ph
bimble
floofy
the 10-12 k is on top isn't it, that's their flights visas and accomodation for their brief stays.A little more detail in this Times article ( not detail about the visas, unfortunately)
Butchers flown in by Cranswick to ease staff shortage | Business | Th…
archived 26 Nov 2022 06:13:47 UTC
This advert is saying just under £28k for Philippine butchers so Cranswick are doing well getting them for £14k
United Kingdom is looking for 8 Butchers
United Kingdom is an island country located off the northwestern coast of mainland Europe. The United Kingdom comprises the whole of the island of Great
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
Portugal has the same shit jobs tbh . Refuse collection ( mainly done at night ) is east Europeans and farm labourers are being brought in both legally and illegally from the Indian sub continent , hotels staff etc very often African or Brazilian .
bimble
floofy
Point was just that if i was a skilled butcher from say Slovakia, why would i even consider coming to the UK now, when there's a load of other countries where i could bring my kids with me, maybe build a life. Those people have left to go elsewhere and their labour is being replaced by people in temporary accommodation on short lonely contract visas. That's all that's changed.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
But you wouldn't mind them in scotland
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
England is in Europe. You are a European.
A380
How do I change this 'custom title' thing then?
I wouldn't dream of speaking on behalf of Scotland ...
A380
How do I change this 'custom title' thing then?
I had a map and everything when I made this point earlier...
Artaxerxes
Look out, he's got a gnu!
I used to be fine calling myself British, I wasn't happy or proud of it, but I could pretend I wasn't anything to do with the red cross on white racism brigade but since 2016 they have become ever more the same thing.
So that sucks. Hoping to change nationality at some point.
bimble
floofy
yep have heard that a lot lately. if i ever do online dating again which i won't, i'll be sure to put 'has EU passport' in my sales pitch.
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
Flip side; if you can't pay enough to attract labour, you ain't got a business.
Yes, sadly. Happens in every industry. It's tragic, but it's true. If you rely on private profit/loss, you have to accept that sometimes it'll be a loss, and if the staff wages can't be cut to fit then you don't have a business, you have a liability. I sympathize on a personal level.
_Russ_
Never not Knowingly Misunderstood
I looked at some options. After the vote, my grandmother was still alive so I couldn't have left. My son is settled at school, so realistically until that's done I can't leave. I would like to. I see no long term future for myself in Britain, and that's a recent development, last five or six years. The 'citizens of nowhere' speech was terrifying stuff. I was appalled and stunned by it. I don't feel invested in things now. Probably since then actually.
They didn’t struggle so much before Brexit. If you can’t pay enough once your government cuts off the supply of labour and thereby increases the cost, you ain’t got a business may be more accurate. See also increases in fuel costs since the reduction in supply recently.
Raheem
Well-Known Member
What about cyber?
MrSki
Who am I to say you're wrong
Or being a ballerina?
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
Cuts off the supply of labour?
Karl Masks
Birds Angel Delight
Labour from outside the UK, presumably. People don't want to work here because it's a shithole and people that aren't being allowed.
Karl Masks
Birds Angel Delight
To say nothing of the quality of food. Veg is now much closer to expiry when bought, I find, as well as being dearer.
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