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A thank you to Brexiteers.

i really don't get 'i feel more recognised as English'.
Where is this joyous experience happening is it at airports or just day to day as you go about your English life in England.
 
Has anyone ever had a phone call from someone who just talks and talks, probably for the fun of it, and you've put the phone down walked into the kitchen, made a cup of tea and a sandwich, picked the phone up again and they are still in full flow oblivious?
Edit . Sorry wrong thread
 
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The39thStep said:
Has anyone ever had a phone call from someone who just talks and talks, probably for the fun of it, and you've put the phone down walked into the kitchen, made a cup of tea and a sandwich, picked the phone up again and they are still in full flow oblivious?
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No but I see people talking like that on the train and oh lord it tires me. How are you talking all the way to Zone 6? How?
 
bimble said:
More recognised as English by who? Foreigners?
I'm not actually trying to be rude i just really don't understand, but then i wouldn't cos different background.
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It's ok, I don't think you're being rude. It's a good question, and I don't really know by who. My answer won't satisfy you if you are looking for a compelling economic or political argument, but I'm content intuiting my conclusions rather than deducing them with watertight syllogisms.

To elaborate; I could easily be considered a foreigner myself, and most likely am by some people. But then maybe that was part of my motivation for voting the way I did - the feeling that I don't fully belong anywhere, and that an increasing movement toward centralisation of power in a distant bureaucracy would make that feeling more pronounced.

At heart, I'm parochial in my sensibilities, valuing family and community above any notion of supranational unity. But communities are rooted in place, and place is tied together by an overarching culture that ties localities together. By keeping our politics national, I sensed that we could foster particularities as a country that make us unique, rather than a bland, homogenised enclave of a corporatist structure I feel alienated from.

It's foolish, I know. But that's my analysis of my decision 6 years after making it.
 
thanks for trying to explain.
Your post reminds me of the day in the middle of the brexit wars when Theresa May said “If you believe you are a citizen of the world, you are a citizen of nowhere" and i can't really explain why but that scared the shit out of me. So yeah we are very different people.
 
bimble said:
thanks for trying to explain.
Your post reminds me of the day in the middle of the brexit wars when Theresa May said “If you believe you are a citizen of the world, you are a citizen of nowhere" and i can't really explain why but that scared the shit out of me. So yeah we are very different people.
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Well I hope my response doesn't also scare you. I'm certain there're plenty of flaws in my position, but being frightening would be a particularly bad one.
 
Tanya1982 said:
On the first morning, shortly after currency trading was suspended and tens of billions of pounds had to be injected to stop the economy crashing, Brexiters were already taking a break from crowing to demand remainers get behind it and start coming up with ideas as to how to make it work. It might've been laughable had it not been so glaringly ominous. It's demoralizing to realise that after the better part of a decade, they're still doing that, looking around in a daze, demanding the impossible while simultaneously taking people to task for not interpreting their own absence of ideas into guaranteed dream delivery.
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bimble said:
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how are they even trying to explain this now, is it still covid and russia?
eta oh yeah, the thing now is to say that you do not agree with any of these gloomy predictions because we have had enough of experts etc.
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I suppose you are going with 'they' coz the responses you are actually getting from leave voters on here don't help you. You forgot QE to QT and rhats a buggy IMO. Though the global economic fallout from both covid and Russias unlawful population of UKraine are far from over

Also that graphic, odd collection of countries
 
The39thStep said:
Has anyone ever had a phone call from someone who just talks and talks, probably for the fun of it, and you've put the phone down walked into the kitchen, made a cup of tea and a sandwich, picked the phone up again and they are still in full flow oblivious?
Edit . Sorry wrong thread
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No. Btw - would you really do that to people who call you?
 
The39thStep said:
Has anyone ever had a phone call from someone who just talks and talks, probably for the fun of it, and you've put the phone down walked into the kitchen, made a cup of tea and a sandwich, picked the phone up again and they are still in full flow oblivious?
Edit . Sorry wrong thread
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Having thought more on your example, maybe it's similar to the ignore button here. I've used that in one or two cases, and everything is so much more peaceful and enjoyable. If someone in your life is wasting your time as well as their own, do them and yourself a favour - just hang up, and enjoy your sandwich in peace. Life's short enough.
 
Yossarian said:
How soon we forget the constant fear of being mistaken for a Dutchman that people lived with pre-2016.
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tbf when I was living in France (Britanny anyway) most people I met thought I was Belgian from my accent. And when I lived in Dalston years later, the shopkeepers at the end of my road thought I was Turkish the first time I went into their shop. (Actually that happened quite a bit round there.)

Weirdly I've always kind of wished I wasn't British. When i was a kid i used to fantasise about being from somewhere else, Iceland, Italy, Russia all had their moment. And then for a while when I was a kid I actually nearly got to be a Kiwi for real, I'm still a bit pissed off that got wrecked by my stupid parents.

This is probably why I voted Remain, it makes sense now.
 
Get some interesting guesses here, Chinese people often say Russian or German and Americans think I'm an Aussie fairly frequently as my accent isn't Dick Van Dyke or BBC I suspect.
 
mojo pixy said:
tbf when I was living in France (Britanny anyway) most people I met thought I was Belgian from my accent. And when I lived in Dalston years later, the shopkeepers at the end of my road thought I was Turkish the first time I went into their shop. (Actually that happened quite a bit round there.)

Weirdly I've always kind of wished I wasn't British. When i was a kid i used to fantasise about being from somewhere else, Iceland, Italy, Russia all had their moment. And then for a while when I was a kid I actually nearly got to be a Kiwi for real, I'm still a bit pissed off that got wrecked by my stupid parents.

This is probably why I voted Remain, it makes sense now.
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How deeply upsetting all that must've been. I do understand the trauma - people have asked if I'm various things over the years, and in France particularly for some reason, I've often been spoken to by the natives in a way that makes clear they have initially taken me for one of their own - the temerity.
 
ItStillWontWork said:
It's ok, I don't think you're being rude. It's a good question, and I don't really know by who. My answer won't satisfy you if you are looking for a compelling economic or political argument, but I'm content intuiting my conclusions rather than deducing them with watertight syllogisms.

To elaborate; I could easily be considered a foreigner myself, and most likely am by some people. But then maybe that was part of my motivation for voting the way I did - the feeling that I don't fully belong anywhere, and that an increasing movement toward centralisation of power in a distant bureaucracy would make that feeling more pronounced.

At heart, I'm parochial in my sensibilities, valuing family and community above any notion of supranational unity. But communities are rooted in place, and place is tied together by an overarching culture that ties localities together. By keeping our politics national, I sensed that we could foster particularities as a country that make us unique, rather than a bland, homogenised enclave of a corporatist structure I feel alienated from.

Imfoolish, I know. But that's my analysis of my decision 6 years after making it.
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You’re already a serf giving your power away to an elite you didn’t vote for you berk.
Your answer doesn’t make me respect your argument more. It makes me feel sad how fucking stupid people are when they have every opportunity to read about things and better their position. But when all your opinions are given to you by social media, why bother eh.
 
Boris Sprinkler said:
You’re already a serf giving your power away to an elite you didn’t vote for you berk.
Your answer doesn’t make me respect your argument more. It makes me feel sad how fucking stupid people are when they have every opportunity to read about things and better their position. But when all your opinions are given to you by social media, why bother eh.
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Ok then :rolleyes:
 
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