Haven’t read the thread but the whole point of Brexit for the ruling class was less about flag waving and more about going full Hayek. But that also opens up opportunities for the left hence Lexit views. If we had an actual left but it works in theory lol.
A thank you to Brexiteers.
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Saul Goodman
It's all good, man
Rules on data storage and genetically modified foods to be changed. I guess that means scrapping GDPR and GM food regulations.Here we go. None of this gives me a warm and fuzzy feeling.
Government launches plans to capitalise on new Brexit freedoms
New plans to capitalise on the freedoms from Brexit have been announced.www.gov.uk
bimble
floofy
i don't know what this means, it sounds a bit like flat screen tellies. But whatever your point is i'm sure you're totally right about it.
I can’t quite decipher your reply either but I bet it was popular in the 80s.i don't know what this means, it sounds a bit like flat screen tellies. But whatever your point is i'm sure you're totally right about it.
bimble
floofy
fucking hell no its not. here's their full list of glorious Brexit Opportunities (regulatory reforms plans).
The stupid crown stamp on pint glasses is the very first thing on the list. Madness.
It also has pounds & ounces.
this bit is exciting.
"General Aviation Reform - Having already made some changes to EU rules, the government will remove further unnecessary and burdensome EU requirements on the General Aviation sector (non-scheduled aircraft) - including on crew licencing, airworthiness maintenance, and medical requirements.'
plus we might be able to spray pesticides with drones !
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Poot
My wife thinks I work too hard
Yeah, I couldn't give a shiny shit about the crown, but I already have to deal with a load of dinosaurs in my job who talk in inches and acres. I can't tell you how regressive this feels.
We should have stuck with that neo-liberal old boys ties club. That would’ve saved us.
bimble
floofy
This is definitely a new era yeah. Totally not the same thing.
Well at least the Tories can be taken to task now and dispensed with. The only way to vote out the EU was Brexit.
stethoscope
Well-Known Member
Hello mate, indeed, but as we found out, one part of 'the left' turned out to have some misplaced belief in a neoliberal superstate to 'save us from the Tories', whilst another part were moderates prepared to fuck the one opportunity 'the left' had to lay down a convincing left-leave argument to the country, which allowed the Tories in anyway.
Fuck it. I fear the anti-trans sentiment (and the exploiting of it as a wedge issue to other regressive shit) being whisked up in this country more than brexit tbh.
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Hiya Steth great to see you posting. I actually abstained on the vote which I’ve done on every single election since I stupidly voted Green when I was 18 and full of hope, and LSD.
I never understood how a lot of the left were simultaneously pro EU and pro Corbyn. Surely they ought to have been pro Brexit and pro Corbyn else he’d get to the levers of power with his hands tied behind his back? The mind boggles. Would the EU allow for any kind of mildly redistributive system? Seems unlikely.
Sorry to hear that you’re fearful for the future of trans people in the current climate, all people who identify as whatever they wish should be free to live a comfortable life without fear of harm or persecution.
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bimble
floofy
guardian's thing about the Brexit Opportunities list makes it sound a lot less ridiculous than the actual list is.
What does this bit mean:
"Government procurement rules, which have required contracts from national to local council to go to open tender, would also be modified Lord Frost told the House of Lords."
so now they'll be able to just give the contract to their mate and not have to feel embarrassed about it? great.
What does this bit mean:
"Government procurement rules, which have required contracts from national to local council to go to open tender, would also be modified Lord Frost told the House of Lords."
so now they'll be able to just give the contract to their mate and not have to feel embarrassed about it? great.
Saul Goodman
It's all good, man
I'd say that's exactly what it means
I’ve generally avoided Brexit debates as I don’t give a shit as it’s basically terrible either way.
But I’ve never understood the rabid support of it by those who regard themselves as progressive coupled with the demonisation of anyone with an opposing view. In fact all it did was illustrate to me why the left in this country is kaput.
What about the people who want some kind of change? What should they have done? Yes they could have started a revolution but they’re stupid according to those they need to side with lol.
Saul Goodman
It's all good, man
It appears to be turning into everything I expected. Tories free from rules that prevented them from achieving peak Tory.
bimble
floofy
i think 'some kind of change' was a lot of the leave vote yeah, but imo people were wildly optimistic to imagine it would be a change for the better. Or that things couldn't get any worse. i think brexiteers are / were optimists & remainers not.
i mean, brilliant news we can stop worrying so much about whether the plane is safe before taking off is listed as one of the brexit opportunities.
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The worst thing I’ve seen in all this is remainers expressing GLEE that jobs were being lost in Brexit heartlands without even understanding that lack of opportunity is what led people to Brexit. Honestly, it made me feel sick.
bimble
floofy
yes i see those people and they are shit people. Some leave voters are shit people too. best to not pay the shit people too much mind imo.
planetgeli
There's no future in England's dreaming
Pretty much this.
I haven't seen glee (though I'm not doubting some cunts may have expressed this). But what I have seen, that boils my piss, is a complete lack of understanding from some remainers in regards of why some parts of the UK, like my part (Wales) might have voted 52-48 against something that brought them precious little, such as in the valleys. We didn't get absolutely nothing (because nothing is as black and white as that) but besides, literally, a road or two we got very little down here.
beesonthewhatnow
going deaf for a living
Fuck knows. Not picking the thing that was obviously and always going to be a colossal clusterfuck and make things tangibly worse than they already were?
I understand why some voted leave. What I still can't get my head around is people ever thinking there was a chance of a "lexit", or it "creating opportunities for the left" etc. Yes, there's dozens of solid arguments for us being out the EU. But none of them worked - or will ever work - at that time with the shower of bastards we had/have in power.
But it's all done, here we are. The argument is lost, ship is sinking and we're all going down with it. Yay.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
you can see it in so many of philosophical's offerings.
planetgeli
There's no future in England's dreaming
I don't have anyone on ignore but I do try to ignore their shit.
But yeah, fair point.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
when people said leaving would create opportunities for the left i don't think anyone expected they'd be grasped and put into effect within 18 months of leaving the eu. let's not forget that the 2017 election was an election of choice called by theresa may and that no tory had to call a ge before last year. so when people were talking about opportunities in 2016 look at it from that pov they were in a context in which the tories were in office until at least 2020.
the great clusterfuck is the thing which creates opportunities, there wouldn't be any opportunities if everything was going swimmingly.
JimW
支那暗杀团
The open tender rules were originally there to make sure councils couldn't keep services in house. Of course the likelihood now is it'll mean cosy deals but the regulation isn't anything great in itself. See also all the Capita contracts etc that turn out to be bullshit bids.
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