No, I said "we should have some fucking employment laws that stop that sort of thing and give people - particularly providing essential service - good pay and conditions." Companies can find a whole lot of reasons why pay should be really low. That's why we need laws to stop them.
If your neighbour didn't like the deal, there were plenty who'd grab it - from countries where the min wage was either side of £3 an hour.Neighbour worked for Cornish company and the wages were shit - a lot worse than he was promised when offered the job and long shifts with no paid overtime, not paid at all for hours over in a long shift which he reckoned put him under the minimum wage for a job as skilled and responsible as driving a huge fuck-off truck through Cornwall at night. I'll swear that didn't used to be the deal for overtime pay.
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Not if there were laws to protect people by stopping that. You don't think workers should be protected in this way to ensure rates and conditions are fair?
Of course they're protected, we're all protected. But it's a free market - supply and demand. Have we really got to go to that level to explain what happened to drivers wages under open borders policy? You just explained to us how the free market - the EU 'single market' - worked in practice, in Cornwall.
It's worth pointing out here that we did have employment laws while were in the EU (indeed they were often held up as being something we couldn't hope to achieve were we not in the EU), but that those employment laws still didn't prevent the undermining of pay and conditions in many industries, including haulage, which were able to rely on workers from poorer parts of the EU, which effectively kept wage levels lower than they would otherwise be, and allowed employers to get away with not training sufficient new drivers to keep the industry going.
Must be all the frantic editing of posts
because there weren't laws to stop that. Just have a proper living wage for anyone who is in the country. Why do you keep ignoring this?
There are laws. They're called ... checks notes .. immigration laws. We have those now. Have a stab at why that it. It begins with B and involved a national referendum.
One of the reasons it's "a last bastion of manliness", if indeed that's the case, is because in many ways the conditions within the industry are far from ideal, and many women, especially those with children and other caring commitments, quite sensibly decide it's not for them, especially given the poor level of pay.
What the screaming fuck. Do you honestly not understand that earnings is relative to an economy, that a Polish plumber earns as much relative to the Polish economy as a British plumber does to the British economy - his family is still essentially middle class, in Poland.
No I can't see this being marty1, marty1 wasn't this stupid
I'm not sure that anyone posting here (with the possible exception of Loose Meat who I've had on ignore for ages) is actually saying that though.
i'm not at all sneering. Of course it would not be for everyone but if that link is true and its really just 1% women that's pretty unusual.
its definitely him.
That's how it's starting to come across, TBH.
you know, equally, your idea that almost no hgv drivers are women is cos 'the conditions are far from ideal' & they're probably mothers does not come across as completely un-sneery to me.
You don't believe in a minimum hourly rate for people working in this country? If it doesn't cover everyone then companies will be able to get round it by employing cheap labour. There'd be no point.
