Urban75 Home About Offline BrixtonBuzz Contact

5G networks - safety, conspiracies and moron cell tower attacks

Maggot

The Cake of Liberty
I am hearing that many people are worried about 5g technology and possible health risks.
I haven't seen anything conclusive from either side and am keeping an open mind about it.
 
I wouldn't worry about it - staying alive will give you cancer - going outside is probably more dangerous than a 5G signal

Ionizing radiation, which includes ultraviolet rays, X-rays and gamma rays, are the harmful forms. The energy from ionizing radiation can pull apart atoms, and it's known to break the chemical bonds in DNA, which can damage cells and cause cancer. This is why the FDA warns against having unnecessary X-rays. It's also why exposure to the sun can cause skin cancer.

$

The electromagnetic spectrum is broken up into two categories: ionizing and non-ionizing. The high-frequency millimeter wavelengths that are expected to be used for some 5G deployments are in the non-ionizing category.

CNET
 

Attachments

  • upload_2019-7-22_23-7-39.png
    upload_2019-7-22_23-7-39.png
    331.8 KB · Views: 28
Has anyone got any reputable links about 5G safety?
Put it this way - no-one has yet produced anything remotely scientifically valid to say that it isn't safe, and there has been a LOT produced on the subject :hmm:.

It's the old problem - you can't prove a negative. But if you look at the RF technologies involved, there is nothing that hasn't already been being used in some way or another for a very long time, so it is highly unlikely that some feature of the setup should suddenly hugely increase the risks it presents.

There are pages out there debunking a lot of the myths...but I've lost the few links I had. If they reappear, I'll post them.
 
I wouldn't worry about it - staying alive will give you cancer - going outside is probably more dangerous than a 5G signal

Ionizing radiation, which includes ultraviolet rays, X-rays and gamma rays, are the harmful forms. The energy from ionizing radiation can pull apart atoms, and it's known to break the chemical bonds in DNA, which can damage cells and cause cancer. This is why the FDA warns against having unnecessary X-rays. It's also why exposure to the sun can cause skin cancer.

$

The electromagnetic spectrum is broken up into two categories: ionizing and non-ionizing. The high-frequency millimeter wavelengths that are expected to be used for some 5G deployments are in the non-ionizing category.

CNET
I wonder how much data could be transmitted using gamma rays, compared to 5G? I don't know if the data rate increases steadily from left to right but presumably it must as the wavelength decreases.

Obviously it couldn't be used for phones due to irradiating people.
 
I wonder how much data could be transmitted using gamma rays, compared to 5G? I don't know if the data rate increases steadily from left to right but presumably it must as the wavelength decreases.

Obviously it couldn't be used for phones due to irradiating people.
Gamma-transmitted messages tend to be short to the point of implication, like 'oh no my reactor has exploded', or, 'hey you, you're fucked'.
 
I wonder how much data could be transmitted using gamma rays, compared to 5G? I don't know if the data rate increases steadily from left to right but presumably it must as the wavelength decreases.
To try and answer the question, what do you mean by 'data rate'?

The speed of transmission is inevitably the speed of light.

A wave representing digital data - one bit per Hz - would carry more data in a period of time with a shorter wavelength. But we're not confined to one bit per Hz. Still, it's proportional.

However we don't just care about that. 'Data rate' might mean bandwidth. You get a shitload more channels/bands from a typical 5G allocation than you do from FM radio.

Then there's stuff like penetration. A 5GHz signal that can't penetrate through a wall that a 2.4GHz one can means, well, no data. Same story with interference etc.

TL;DR: it's complicated.
 
UK 5G bands are immediately adjacent to wifi, broadcast TV and existing mobile phone bands. The Sun is also pretty indiscriminate pumping out both non-ionising and ionising radiation at almost all frequencies. You've been bathed in this stuff for years. Now consider the soup of pollution you've been drinking in from transport every day courtesy of the internal combustion engine...
 
from my understanding 5 g is just modulated on top of the 4 g signal ,so if that is the case its just as safe as 4 g

but i'm no expert
 
The dose is in the poison.
Stick yer head in a microwave oven and you will cook from the inside out.
Neither you or any progeny will turn green and defy the laws of physics.
Do it with a billionth of the power and you will need NPL laboratory conditions to measure any heating effect.
 
The dose is in the poison.
Stick yer head in a microwave oven and you will cook from the inside out.
Neither you or any progeny will turn green and defy the laws of physics.
Do it with a billionth of the power and you will need NPL laboratory conditions to measure any heating effect.

If you can get your head in the microwave and shut the door, I've got some bad news for you. You are already dead.
 
Back
Top Bottom