A suspended sentence for encouraging a man to shag his kids so he could watch? The mind boggles.
24 Hours in Police Custody
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The Fornicator
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I'e only seen 2 hours of this programme - the last two episodes - and it's floored me each time. So good. BAFTA noms at least.
The Facebook Live scene in the carpark was beyond most Black Mirror episodes. Extraordinary.
The Facebook Live scene in the carpark was beyond most Black Mirror episodes. Extraordinary.
Mrs Miggins
Eternal
That made very conflicting viewing didn't it? He is guilty of grooming and sexual assault in the past (was it?) but I also felt sorry for him being subjected to that kind of mob "justice". That is not right. So sad when he said that he thought moving to Cornwall might help. As if people in Cornwall don't use Facebook.
The gang of kids trashing his car egged on by the adult filming was particularly vile.
The Fornicator
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The thing I didn't understand was how the pensioner was so compliant. He got out the car - madness, stood where he was told, accepted the filming accepted the verbal abuse, accepted the egg throwing, stood there as the crowd got bigger ... why do that. And then he went to his home address where the mob trashed everything.
It was like he had no idea how to live with himself.
It was like he had no idea how to live with himself.
clicker
nanook rubs it....
Was it the pensioner who got the custodial sentence? If so I reckon he would have been relieved. Makes you wonder how the one who got the suspended sentence will cope. They both seemed so unable to function or even comprehend what they have done was wrong. When the pensioner talked about suicide it did seem his only way to escape . Fantastic series .
mystic pyjamas
Don't call us,we'll call you.
Would like to know if the
Police caught up with the father in the video and threw away the key.
Police caught up with the father in the video and threw away the key.
I think that was addressed at the start, they had intercepted that bloke and that is how they got the lead on the young guy.
As others have put it, it was difficult to watch and I did admit at times I felt for the pensioner. Thing is there can be no doubt what he was up to, he was attempting to meet a child, get her drunk and have sex with her. All this whilst on police bail for other similar nastiness. His self-pitying 'I'm not a peado, I'm just lonely' comments were pathetic. He is a persistent predator of young girls and whilst I'm no great fan of mob justice, he quite frankly had it coming.
ash
Inittogether
I wondered about that he even lit a cigarette I couldn’t work out if he was like a rabbit startled in the headlights or if he was getting some sort of kick out of it.
I felt almost (or just) as disgusted at the braying mob mentality which was sick in its own right as I did at his history.
The Fornicator
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And that in a nut shell is the dilemma the programme made so well.
On a tangent, I wasn't sure if social media creates the situation described. I've long since shut down Facebook but I'd be surprised to go on there and be able to locate Gary Glitter or Venables or some other notorious offender, never mind men like this.
bellaozzydog
rolling turds in glitter
Hard viewing. why are known paedophiles able to continue grooming children while on bail. Is that a failure of the system? Yes
Mob law, I question the motivations of the main protagonists and I hate watching the ugly mob psychology play out into violence, it makes me feel physically quite sick.
I think the justice system and police need to be left to deal with justice (however unpalatable that is) do they have enough bodies and budgets to deal with the issues, probably not
While I lean strongly towards ACAB and I'm not happy with the "get a result at any cost" culture the coppers dealing with this sort of shit on a daily basis have my respect for exposing themselves to it on a daily basis, no doubt they have some high burn out rates
Very conflicted. my natural instinct would be protect the paedophile from the mob and hope that he would be dealt with by the justice system in a way that reduced the risk to future victims
More investment needs to be put into the less palatable areas of societies ills, identification and treatment/mitigation of sexual predators, unfortunately that's just not popular. likewise coppering.
A depressing episode from all directions.
Still the best TV of the year IMHO
Mob law, I question the motivations of the main protagonists and I hate watching the ugly mob psychology play out into violence, it makes me feel physically quite sick.
I think the justice system and police need to be left to deal with justice (however unpalatable that is) do they have enough bodies and budgets to deal with the issues, probably not
While I lean strongly towards ACAB and I'm not happy with the "get a result at any cost" culture the coppers dealing with this sort of shit on a daily basis have my respect for exposing themselves to it on a daily basis, no doubt they have some high burn out rates
Very conflicted. my natural instinct would be protect the paedophile from the mob and hope that he would be dealt with by the justice system in a way that reduced the risk to future victims
More investment needs to be put into the less palatable areas of societies ills, identification and treatment/mitigation of sexual predators, unfortunately that's just not popular. likewise coppering.
A depressing episode from all directions.
Still the best TV of the year IMHO
Yata
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probably worried one of them will get killed or something? its on here anyway if anyone needs the link https://www.seriestop.net/show/24-hours-in-police-custody
Im certain that some of the "paedos" are set up. I know of one round here where a lad his name smeared for being a grass; people saying he was looking at their kids etc.
Then the hunters turned up at his door, live streamed it to thousands of people, giving his name and general location, and then left without calling the police as usual.
Why would they not phone the police? Because nothing untoward had happened is my guess.
I just downloaded all 4 specifically to watch this... what happened? Why don't they have it on there anymore?
I suspect some/all will return when the next series is aired although Amazon looks to be showing some so may have an exclusive deal for a period of time.
Doesn't seem to be any info online about when series 8 is due to show, funny because a few months ago at my mates we were excited to see series 8, episode 1 on her telly ready to watch but when we clicked on it there was nothing there and it had disappeared the next day. Maybe it's success will mean it moving off ch4?
Some episodes are on youtube/dailymotion in the meantime.
Thanks. I always forget about daily motion
Mrs Miggins
Eternal
It's back! New series starts on Monday 9pm.
Yay
I know the mum from the one last night. We used to hate each other, but get on surprisingly well these days. A strong, brave lady. She has thrown herself into speaking out against knife crime, since this happened.
Mrs Miggins
Eternal
I'd forgotten about this as I was away last week. Will catch up tonight as I know these programmes have a tendancy to disappear very quickly.
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
Last night was shocking. Absolutely shocking, my 15 year old watched it with me with the widest eyes I have ever seen on her.
Sure there have always been stabbings, but the murder, they absolutely did mean to kill him, a total stranger who had not wronged them personally in any way.
The minimum recs they got were far too short, 30 should be the starting point.
The one who grassed himself and the others up - the driver. Felt a little sorry for him. When he was saying about the crazy one, the one who did the stabbing, about how he would just do serious violence with no emotion. Get to hanging round with someone like that aged 18 or so, you don't know how that is gonna impact your life.
I'm not a huge fan of massive prison sentences for their own sake. 18 years is a long time. A time to reflect on your mis-deeds etc, maybe do some growing and repent. Or not, as the case may well be. If he's a changed man in 18 years I would see no problem with releasing him. If he's still a dangerous nutcase, then keep him in for much, much longer.
I think Roseanne (the mum) is quite forgiving of the lads who did it. She's not allowed herself to become swallowed by bitterness (she would have before this happened - I can assure you). It's funny how awful events can change people for the better.
She attended the trial, and apparently some of the lads were smirking at her when the judge/jury were out of the court room. I was expecting her to put the boot in (something she could do amazingly well, if it took her fancy - and who could have blamed her?), on the victim impact statement at sentencing, but apparently she did not. Wrote a thoughtful letter explaining her loss and forgiving those who had done it. Society will punish them enough, I guess is the thinking. Her own vitriol wouldn't bring her son back.
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
tbf to him, he got 11 for manslaughter, not life, so out in 5-6. Still a large part of his life in prison, but not life with the 18's the others got.
I am certainly not a hang'em and flog'em type and yes, 18 years is a long time to spend inside. However as deterrent, and deterrent is part of a sentence, an 18 year old getting 18 (with decent behaviour that is likely to 20-22 until they do get out), the message to others is that you'll be out in your 30's. The current guidelines state 25 is the starting point for knife murders, and from what I saw (of course not the full picture) there was precious little to mitigate that down to 18 with this bunch.
She's done the right thing in forgiving them, you can't move forward without doing so. Not sure I'd want to, hope to fuck I never need to find out.
I think they got life, with a minimum of 18. I guess if could well be longer.
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