24 Hours in Police Custody

[Bahnhof Strasse]

I think they got life, with a minimum of 18. I guess if could well be longer.

Yes, they were done for murder, so life is mandatory, the minimum recommendation of time to be served before parole can be considered is 18 years. Most lifers spend longer inside, normally 4-8 years longer, sometimes decades more.

Just couldn't really work out why so far below the 25 starting point here. Perhaps cos of their age, under 18's have a lower starting point, were they 17 when they did it? Or if they were 18 that's only just over, I guess.

Shitty business all round.

 

[Dandred]

They seem to be focusing on Asian or black offenders this series so far....

 

[wiskey]

I found last nights hard watching, partly because of the sheer pointlessness of the murder but also because when I was 16 one of my friends stabbed another one, only one wound but it killed him ... Seeing the force with which those boys assaulted each other was miserable watching. And not just once, over and over

 

[moomoo]

I found last nights hard watching, partly because of the sheer pointlessness of the murder but also because when I was 16 one of my friends stabbed another one, only one wound but it killed him ... Seeing the force with which those boys assaulted each other was miserable watching. And not just once, over and over

Awful wasn’t it? So sad.

 

[cyril_smear]

I wonder if age had part to do with the low sentence... I was watching it with my father and as soon I saw the video I said that's at least 25 years.

I reckon the lad who was honest(the driver) was hoping for something like an affray charge. I'm not sure if I felt a bit sorry for him... He seemed a bit soppy.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

I reckon the lad who was honest(the driver) was hoping for something like an affray charge. I'm not sure if I felt a bit sorry for him... He seemed a bit soppy.

He was lucky to get a manslaughter, if he'd not bubbled up the others he'd have been thrown in with the joint enterprise and be doing life too.

He was white, btw, Dandred

 

[Dandred]

He was lucky to get a manslaughter, if he'd not bubbled up the others he'd have been thrown in with the joint enterprise and be doing life too.

He was white, btw, Dandred

I said focusing, not only.

The one of the series so far.

 

[cyril_smear]

He was lucky to get a manslaughter, if he'd not bubbled up the others he'd have been thrown in with the joint enterprise and be doing life too.

He was white, btw, Dandred

Didn't leave the car though did he? Id have being grassing if I was him as well. He will certainly have a rough time in jail.

How did he get guilty of manslaughter?? He was charged with murder... Would that be down to culpability?

 

[cyril_smear]

He was lucky to get a manslaughter Dandred

He was charged with murder though wasn't he?

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

He was charged with murder though wasn't he?

No, they charged him with manslaughter in view of his cooperation.

 

[Dandred]

He was charged with murder though wasn't he?

Manslaughter 11 years.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Didn't leave the car though did he? Id have being grassing if I was him as well. He will certainly have a rough time in jail.

How did he get guilty of manslaughter?? He was charged with murder... Would that be down to culpability?

Joint enterprise could have roped him in with a murder charge, he was the getaway driver, and the driver to get them to the scene of the crime. He knew the bloke was a psycho, was armed and would use it, yet he still drove him there. That's joint enterprise.

Not only did he get an effective 6 years rather than a minimum 18, cos he 'grassed' he'll be in a very soft nick all the way, so won't have a rough time. Of course once he's out he may have issues in the Luton area if those others still have friends/influence.

 

[cyril_smear]

No, they charged him with manslaughter in view of his cooperation.

"Reece Bliss-McGrath, 20, of Exton Avenue, Luton, was found not guilty of murder but convicted of manslaughter, and was sentenced to 11 years - half to be served in custody and half on licence"

From Bedfordshire police website

 

[wiskey]

I'm not sure about the joint enterprise thing. If it had been around when I was 16 we'd all have been sunk

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

"Reece Bliss-McGrath, 20, of Exton Avenue, Luton, was found not guilty of murder but convicted of manslaughter, and was sentenced to 11 years - half to be served in custody and half on licence"

From Bedfordshire police website

Fair enough.

 

[cyril_smear]

Joint enterprise could have roped him in with a murder charge, he was the getaway driver, and the driver to get them to the scene of the crime. He knew the bloke was a psycho, was armed and would use it, yet he still drove him there. That's joint enterprise.

Not only did he get an effective 6 years rather than a minimum 18, cos he 'grassed' he'll be in a very soft nick all the way, so won't have a rough time. Of course once he's out he may have issues in the Luton area if those others still have friends/influence.

It's all madness however you look at it.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

It's all madness however you look at it.

Totally.

 

[cyril_smear]

Fair enough.

That's my point... I agree with joint enterprise. How did he end up with a not guilty though? Possibly because he gave an account where as the others didn't idk?

 

[Dandred]

Does anyone else seem to think this is focusing mainly on none whites? The last three episodes seem to be. In the past I've not noticed this? (I don't live in the UK but keep up with UK TV)

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

That's my point... I agree with joint enterprise. How did he end up with a not guilty though? Possibly because he gave an account where as the others didn't idk?

The found not guilty thing can be at the direction of the prosecution. Dunno in this case, thought they said they were going to do him a favour for talking, but may have misheard, the programme was a bit of a shocker.

 

[cyril_smear]

Does anyone else seem to think this is focusing mainly on none whites? The last three episodes seem to be. In the past I've not noticed this? (I don't live in the UK but keep up with UK TV)

Report it to ofcom. I can't remember the previous 2 episodes; only that they were about sex offences

 

[cyril_smear]

Also, is it a different police station they are working with? Perhaps the demographic of the area that station serves is different to the previous series?

 

[Dandred]

Report it to ofcom. I can't remember the previous 2 episodes; only that they were about sex offences

I was asking if anyone else thought or had noticed the same theme.

 

[SpookyFrank]

Does anyone else seem to think this is focusing mainly on none whites? The last three episodes seem to be. In the past I've not noticed this? (I don't live in the UK but keep up with UK TV)

Well, the show is pro-filth propaganda and the filth are a well known racist organisation so...

 

[Thora]

I was asking if anyone else thought or had noticed the same theme.

I seem to remember the ethnic makeup of Luton is a slight majority bme population, so I guess you could expect 50/50.

 

[cyril_smear]

I was asking if anyone else thought or had noticed the same theme.

I was being flippant/an arsehole. No need for it, sorry.

 

[Jon-of-arc]

Well, the show is pro-filth propaganda and the filth are a well known racist organisation so...

Not sure it's entirely pro-cop. The way it was sold to me was my dad basically saying that sometimes it shows the cops massively fucking up.

 

[smmudge]

Like when they went to the chief of drugs investigation cos they found a bunch of drugs and he went, err no you can deal with it. Reminded me of my own workplace, ffs.

 

[wiskey]

Or when they started investigating something (? Blackmail of a prostitute maybe?) and had to nick one of their colleagues as the perpetrator

 

[Dandred]

A white man at last! But a noble one, just supplying us with weed...