Fedayn
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You remind me of Funf, out of ITMA in the second world war. “Zis is Funf speaking.”
Well you're more the Lord Haw Haw type.
You remind me of Funf, out of ITMA in the second world war. “Zis is Funf speaking.”
The reasons behind an action matter very much unless you live in a ridicilous black and white world. That's why judges hear the circumstances surrounding an incident and take it into account.
Well you're more the Lord Haw Haw type.
Lord Haw Haw wasn't a comedy character.
So there.
We shouldn't be encouraging young people to accept that pursuing unpopular, illegal and extraordinarily bloody wars and then lying about the reasons for doing so is ok, yet scum like you do it anyway. So fuck off with your pathetic mealy mouthed claptrap about broken windows please.You missed out the other clause in my sentence - "grown ups shouldn't be encouraging it". Very naughty because it twists the sense of what I said.
You missed out the other clause in my sentence - "grown ups shouldn't be encouraging it". Very naughty because it twists the sense of what I said.
Doesn't matter what the reasons are - grown ups shouldn't be encouraging it.
We shouldn't be encouraging young people to accept that pursuing unpopular, illegal and extraordinarily bloody wars and then lying about the reasons for doing so is ok, yet scum like you do it anyway. So fuck off with your pathetic mealy mouthed claptrap about broken windows please.
I'm just waiting for Sassaferrato to turn up...I'm not quite sure why we're all giving our ages on this thread, but I'm also in my late 40s. (A dislike of vandalism does seem to grow in middle age.)
Oh, for goodness sake, stop muddling everything up. Plumped's foolish support for disastrous foreign policies has absolutely fuck all to do with her sensible refusal to go along with adolescent support for daft vandalism.
Incidentally, as far as we know, the 17-year-old girl's spot of vandalism also has fuck all to do with foreign policy, let alone with Plumped's New Labbery.
In fact, we don't know - or at least I don't know - what her motives were. Perhaps she dislikes all banks and banking. Perhaps she dislikes nationalised banks. Perhaps she dislikes Scots. Perhaps she dislikes bonuses to bankers. Perhaps she dislikes all bank workers or everyone who works in the City. Perhaps she just enjoys a bit of vandalism. Perhaps she mistakenly thought a spot of vandalism would make a clear statement of her views. It didn't. Sometimes, I suppose, it does, but generally, as in this case, it doesn't in the slightest.
This you gentlegreen on a bad day!
I am merely toying with the scum. None of your usual drivel about muslims here I see. Is this a first?
Ye i didn't see anything heroic about her actions.However if she had strapped 10 kilo of cemtex to her chest on a timer and walked into the RBS HQ that would be a different story....
...but more than a little hard on the bank workers, customers, cleaners, security guards and passers-by, don't you think?
Why not put up a photo of yourself ?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/...20-protests-Four-charged-over-RBS-attack.html
The exact charges the girl faces are burglary and "intent to commit damage" (I assume the Telegraph means criminal damage there). Regardless of political motives, vandalism is wrong, and it's right that those responsible should face criminal damage charges.
I'd argue against imprisonment for vandalism, too. It's ludicrous.
I've just seen a report on the web that A 17-year-old girl has been warned she faces jail after she admitted attacking the Royal Bank of Scotland building during the G20 clashes.
I'm in my mid 50s and as far as I'm concerned this albeit young girl is a hero and many others that have been apprehend by the filthy police are Innocent victims of the rotten capitalist system. What can we do to support them?
I've just seen a report on the web that A 17-year-old girl has been warned she faces jail after she admitted attacking the Royal Bank of Scotland building during the G20 clashes.
I'm in my mid 50s and as far as I'm concerned this albeit young girl is a hero and many others that have been apprehend by the filthy police are Innocent victims of the rotten capitalist system. What can we do to support them?
Assuming that your post is true it's a bit of tough shit on her.
The first is random vandalism, the other is rioting.Break a window under normal circumstances and get a slap on the wrist.
Do the same on a political demo and you face jail.
That's how shit is.
Remember that the judiciary is independent of the political process, oh yes.
Sounds like the sort of nonsense many teenagers get themselves into. (Albeit not in front of the world's media.) Until we have a proper system for juveniles, a fine and community service sound right, if guilty as charged.Apparently she was drunk and trying to break a pc screen with a keyboard. She then resisted arrest. This all took place inside the bank.
How would you feel if it was fascists attacking a birth control clinic ?
What better time to start demonising protesters and take attention away from the matter of the heavy handed and violent policing and the large question hovering over Ian Tomlinson's death?
The first is random vandalism, the other is rioting.
The latter is always treated more seriously.
gentlegreen said:How would you feel if it was fascists attacking a birth control clinic ?
At least two, but the point is that being seen to clamp down hard on this 17 year old is a great way for the authorities to draw media attention on the (minimal) violence rather than address the serious issues abut the conduct of the police on the day.Isn't there a thread about that issue already?