14th November Movement for Left Unity

[treelover]

Who like?, lots of new faces, imo..

 

[treelover]

From the FB page, it's far too focused on Trade Union only issues, activism for the sake of activism, summit hopping and all that malarkey. It might be different at a local level though.[/quote]

I thinks that's key...

 

[Spanky Longhorn]

Against all my better judgement I may stick my name on the list to see how this starts to pan out. Somebody dissuade me before curiosity kills the cat!

fool me once, shame on you etc

 

[treelover]

ffs, why isn't the quotes working for me..

 

[chilango]

Who like?, lots of new faces, imo..

Nick Wrack, Keith Flett, Andrew Burgin, Alan Thornett....

 

[chilango]

Good luck to 'em though.

 

[mk12]

Nick Wrack, Keith Flett, Andrew Burgin, Alan Thornett....

It is going to be impossible keeping this type of person out of any new left initiative. As I said, they need to remain an isolated minority.

 

[Pickman's model]

Nick Wrack, Keith Flett, Andrew Burgin, Alan Thornett....

keith and andrew are ok, if more than a little set in their ways.

 

[chilango]

I' m not saying they're "bad people".

It's just an indicator of where the politics of he group are at the moment.

Like I said, good luck to them, but I'd have too many disagreements at this point to make it worthwhile.

 

[Spanky Longhorn]

keith and andrew are ok, if more than a little set in their ways.

Their meetings will be in good pubs

 

[belboid]

keith and andrew are ok, if more than a little set in their ways.

is this a different Keith Flett? he is still in the SWP isnt he?

 

[treelover]

It's an absolutely nailed on guarantee that if this takes off (in its own small way), the usual thing will happen and it will peter out into a whole load of nothingness. Just like the SA, just like the SLP and just like the Respect abomination. It's one of life's mysteries how otherwise reasonably intelligent people can fail to grasp that history has passed their politics by, for good or ill. That's why there will never be 'left unity,' and never could be: lacking the remotest chance of power, or even small victories, what else is there to do but bicker and maneouvre? If you can't get one over on capitalism, you might as well try and get one over on a rival political grouping. Micropolitics played out in a dead-end street. In the post-socialist era it's inevitable and inescapable.

The current SWP fiasco is the final nail in the coffin of Britain's radical left. It won't be replaced, just as when the old CP collapsed it wasn't replaced. And just like twenty years ago, nothing will arise sponteneously. All it means is that this country will have fewer people actively opposing capitalism (for all their faults.)

Welcome


to the new LLETSA

 

[Pickman's model]

Welcome


to the new LLETSA

miserablism alive and well

 

[FridgeMagnet]

Not even trying any more

 

[JimW]

Not even trying any more

If you think about it, if you didn't keep banning him he wouldn't have to keep coming back under different log-ins.

ETA: Free the (forget which bit of Manc-land he lives in) One!

 

[mk12]

Jim Jepps is the Camden organiser. I recognise the name...

 

[Spanky Longhorn]

Jim Jepps is the Camden organiser. I recognise the name...

ex Green Party

 

[treelover]

Most of the local organisers seem 'unknowns' certainly the sixteen year old is...

 

[where to]

the have a link to an anti-green energy website, http://www.repealtheact.org.uk/ which itself links to James Delingpole's Telegraph blog and the association of British drivers.

they also then link to pro-green website http://climatejusticecollective.org/ in the same section.

 

[J Ed]

Jim Jepps is the Camden organiser. I recognise the name...

He was the one that collated all the links on the SWP scandal http://www.jimjepps.net/?p=273

 

[treelover]

"Warren Draper is the contact for Left Unity in Doncaster. Please contact Warren at Doncaster@leftunity.org"



Blimey, if that is who I think it is, L/U there is going to be pretty robust...

the speed this thing is growing by is crazy, I expect it to grow even more as people use holiday time to get involved, read up on it, etc..

 

[butchersapron]

Bristol contact is from the GreenLeft.

What speed? How and on what are you judging its speed of growth?

 

[J Ed]

Is this L/U thing being set up in Sheffield?

 

[mk12]

There's no news of one yet, no.

 

[mk12]

I'm not sure if this has been posted yet: http://leftunity.org/please-include-us-anarchists/

Many anarchists continue to reject any political party that claims to work for the good of the people but a number of us are willing to support movements such as yours. We may be labeled as false anarchists but it is a small price to pay for real political change. This is why I ask of you to remember that there are anarchists out there who would support this cause with great enthusiasm and who are willing to donate time and effort to this great cause. Please don’t make the mistakes of the past and alienate us!

I didn't realise you'd signed up Butchers?

 

[JimW]

I expect any grouping starting with a calendar date to have an armed wing and release communiques in berets sat behind a trestle table with obscure flag hung behind.

 

[Zabo]

Like one or two others I'll sit and wait. Too many self appointed organisers here and there.

They've not yet harnessed Twitter with only 873 following. I'm not surprised because Speak HQ send out a tweet every few seconds with all manner of links without descriptions.

 

[treelover]

Is this L/U thing being set up in Sheffield?

You could be the contact

 

[where to]

a sense of humour is a pretty good start:
http://leftunity.org/dont-say-this-comrade/

 

[sihhi]

keith and andrew are ok, if more than a little set in their ways.

doesn't andrew burgin already have one of these initiative coalitions - namely the Coalition of Resistance.