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14th November Movement for Left Unity

What have you got against 6 million working class British people?

I was being slightly tongue in cheek btw. This is indicated by the :D

Then I thought of Unison under the leadership of Dave Prentis and how he's sold out his members. But you can't see that. Can you, Longy Spankhorn (keep spanking that horn) nor are you capable of understanding irony either, so it seems.

I guess you weren't around when NALGO (one of Unison's constituent parts) was referred to as "Not a lot going on" by its own members?
 
I was being slightly tongue in cheek btw. This is indicated by the :D

Then I thought of Unison under the leadership of Dave Prentis and how he's sold out his members. But you can't see that. Can you, Longy Spankhorn (keep spanking that horn) nor are you capable of understanding irony either, so it seems.

I guess you weren't around when NALGO (one of Unison's constituent parts) was referred to as "Not a lot going on" by its own members?

Sorry for being younger than you prof:(

What has the failures of leadership both real and percieved got to do with whether union members are whores or their customers though?
 
Three "platforms" or by their true name FACTIONS set up by self interested trot groups and their like before the party has even been founded formally?

Won't be much left "unity" with all that going on. The working class can rest easy in their beds tonight, no danger of being called up for the workers militia time for another pint!

As for Workers Power, my arse as that fella on TV says.....

 
If you ban factions you end up with a sect like the Social Workers and/or secret factions. If you allow factions, there will be open factions. That's not necessarily a bad thing.

There have been various attempts to set up a left-wing party by gathering existing left-wing groups and individuals. Maybe this new attempt will end up like the poor old Socialist Labour Party, but not necessarily, since it is not dominated by a character like Arthur Scargill. On the other hand, there is also the rather better experience of the Scottish Socialist Party (before Big Tommy's disastrous insistence on suing the News of the Screws).

I wouldn't bet on Left Unity going well, but it's not settled yet. Some leftovers crawling from the rubble of the Workers' Power implosion still blathering about 'defending Muslims' from imaginary 'pogroms' is neither here nor there.
 
If you ban factions you end up with a sect like the Social Workers and/or secret factions. If you allow factions, there will be open factions. That's not necessarily a bad thing.

There have been various attempts to set up a left-wing party by gathering existing left-wing groups and individuals. Maybe this new attempt will end up like the poor old Socialist Labour Party, but not necessarily, since it is not dominated by a character like Arthur Scargill. On the other hand, there is also the rather better experience of the Scottish Socialist Party (before Big Tommy's disastrous insistence on suing the News of the Screws).

I wouldn't bet on Left Unity going well, but it's not settled yet. Some leftovers crawling from the rubble of the Workers' Power implosion still blathering about 'defending Muslims' from imaginary 'pograms' is neither here nor there.
We all need protecting from the imaginary program's of the trots
 
i like the sound of N14. lefties slagging off other lefties is so sickening and stupid...
 
i like the sound of N14. lefties slagging off other lefties is so sickening and stupid...


Some pessimistic people think Left Unity is just going to be a new opportunity for the various factions to slag each other off. Of course it's true that having 'unity' in the name doesn't guarantee unity. A lot depends on the attitude of the people involved and what they really want. If enough want to unite around things they agree on and have their arguments in a comradely way, it might work. Time will tell.
 
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