DexterTCN
Troy and Abed in the morning
Partly. But that's another subject.
Indy guarantees EU membership if we want it. Staying in the UK doesn't. Rory Bremner's twitter feed over the last week may enlighten but I can't link to it at work.
Is Brexit actually going to happen?
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Indy guarantees EU membership if we want it. Staying in the UK doesn't. Rory Bremner's twitter feed over the last week may enlighten but I can't link to it at work.
SpackleFrog
Smash showy bell-bottom pants and sporty haircuts
Is it another subject?
Sure it's not possible lots of Scottish people support Brexit cos they want independence and don't really care about the EU?
DexterTCN
Troy and Abed in the morning
Scotland voted 62% to remain in the EU during the referendum.Is it another subject?
Sure it's not possible lots of Scottish people support Brexit cos they want independence and don't really care about the EU?
Politics is different up here just now. We're pretty much at the stage where we don't give a shit what England does. Not long to go
It's doubtful we'd support a second vote - which is different from wanting a different result.
SpackleFrog
Smash showy bell-bottom pants and sporty haircuts
DexterTCN said: ↑
Scotland voted 62% to remain in the EU during the referendum.
Are the ones who voted leave asking for another referendum like here ?
And did the remain voters really know what they were voting for ?
Surely now with all the new information and "facts" that are now known there should be another vote.
Maybe many of them were not very bright and never understood the implications of voting to stay. Surely it should have been at least 75%, so should be ignored
#Peoplesvoteinscotlandmark2
Scotland voted 62% to remain in the EU during the referendum.
Are the ones who voted leave asking for another referendum like here ?
And did the remain voters really know what they were voting for ?
Surely now with all the new information and "facts" that are now known there should be another vote.
Maybe many of them were not very bright and never understood the implications of voting to stay. Surely it should have been at least 75%, so should be ignored
#Peoplesvoteinscotlandmark2
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HoratioCuthbert
Deep seated inconsequence
Haha it reminded me of your “three terfs earlier” and similar ...
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
sadly i don't recall the post to which you allude
HoratioCuthbert
Deep seated inconsequence
Call me naive but I find it really hard to believe most people in any given area “firmly believe in capitalism”. Where do people who say stuff like that work, where do they socialise? Ach.
HoratioCuthbert
Deep seated inconsequence
No way it was a belter, someone was pure greeting about lies and damned lies and then you posted a picture of Daleks saying “three terfs earlier”
Ok you had to be there.
DexterTCN
Troy and Abed in the morning
Scotland considered itself European before there was a UK mate.
SpackleFrog
Smash showy bell-bottom pants and sporty haircuts
Europeans considered themselves European before there was an EU mate, what's your point? Do you think the Swiss or the Norwegians don't consider themselves European?
pocketscience
Well-Known Member
Now I understand that if Salmond had gone for the bawbee the EU wouldn't have let Scotland join, but why did he opt for the pound and not the euro when Osborne put the squeeze on him just before the referendum?
This is the nub of many issues.
The EU is seen as trans national super power. It is. But it’s not Westminster, concocting policies to the dictate.
It’s a muddle of opinions, that gets forged (very slowly, if at all) into an idea, an ideology at times.
The idea that nations have no say in this, that it all happens from nationless beaurocrats doesn’t hold up. The EU isn’t an overarching super power. It’s a club.
We stuck our fingers up at a club.
mauvais
on reddit or something
These aren't mutually exclusive things. It can absolutely be the former propped up by the latter - a centrally run superpower whose continued existence is, on balance, to the benefit of its members.
pocketscience
Well-Known Member
innit... Can't have it both ways. One minute we're being told how the EU keeps national governments in check on things like workers rights and environmental issues but when you mention the neo-liberal stuff like the fourth railway package or the handling of greece then suddenly it's powerless and only an innocent little club with nothing to say.
Bingo on saturday night, raffle sundays. Lovely fishing and gardening groups too.
Bingo on saturday night, raffle sundays. Lovely fishing and gardening groups too.
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redsquirrel
This Machine Kills Progressives
No it doesn't, which is why no one has proposed any such idea.
Are the WTO, IMF, World Bank, etc "just" clubs too?
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
the uk has been in the wto since 1/1/1995 so the question of joining does not arise.
WTO | The United Kingdom - Member information
Even in all this seemingly unremitting shit, this, in the Economist, caught my eye, and reminded me why (even though I disagree) some fellow posters are lexit,
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Other governments regularly promised Greece jam tomorrow...[my snip]...It was the most ruinous way imaginable to make a point. Now Greece, left with threadbare public services, eye-watering tax rates, weak institutions and appalling demographics, is supposed to run large primary surpluses (ie, before interest payments) for the next four decades.
This is magical thinking masquerading as policy.”
Worth repeating. That’s The Economist.
Tagging DotCommunist - as a nod of respect. I know where you’re coming from.
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Other governments regularly promised Greece jam tomorrow...[my snip]...It was the most ruinous way imaginable to make a point. Now Greece, left with threadbare public services, eye-watering tax rates, weak institutions and appalling demographics, is supposed to run large primary surpluses (ie, before interest payments) for the next four decades.
This is magical thinking masquerading as policy.”
Worth repeating. That’s The Economist.
Tagging DotCommunist - as a nod of respect. I know where you’re coming from.
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Anyone played Bloomberg's brexit choose your own adventure yet? I finished in 15 moves with a Labour soft brexit...
I got same.
andysays
Love and solidarity
Clubs the ruling class uses to beat the rest of us.
We won't disarm them completely by leaving, but at least it will be one weapon less in their armoury.
The WTO is better?
Beyond trade and capitalism, what does the WTO offer? Or is that it?
MickiQ
In My Defence I was left Unsupervised
So did I but i suspect that says more about the typical mindset of posters on these boards rather than being a prediction of the future
Oh for sure.
I made money on the referendum. Despite the wind seemingly blowing all my way, I did a chunky “compensation bet”, that we’d go out. I made a grand, and had one of the saddest days of my life. Three in the morning round a campfire at Glastonbury (knee deep in mud, the “elite”), and sudden silence after we’d all been hitting refresh on our phones.
Still, it’s not turned out too bad eh
(can anyone explain what it means yet?)
mauvais
on reddit or something
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
'welcome, you have completed your time in solitary, welcome back to gen pop. You've lost weight, haven't you'
I can't read that ar4ticle in full, the economist claims i have used my 3 free articles this month when I manifestly have not, but there you have it.
try opening the article in an incognito window
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
ta, that worked
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