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‘Many a struggle of a sectional character will be necessary before the workers are able to resort to common action for the final overthrow of the wages system; education of the economically class conscious variety receives its best stimulus by means of a strike for better conditions...

Those who determine simply to theorise and to argue interminably as to the most logical method get left high and dry by the workers movement which takes its own course.”

Tom Mann “The Path to Power” in “Solidarity” March 1914, emphasis added.
 
butchersapron said:
A) the people piggybacking on your posts with their own long standing agendas - agendas you may not be able to spot but which longer standing members here are more than aware of (in brief you were manupilated by them).

B) This is a situation of your own making and it genuinely beggars belief that you really are trying to blame it on anyone else.
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A) In denial still Butch, you are 100% right and there ARE no problems with the form and content of what you write after all. hahahaha. I said there were problems ages ago, several other INDEPENDENT people noticed it, and STILL you are in denial.

Its not a fatal flaw in your politics, a small one, and i have already said how easily it can be improved. I/we manipulated no one - that is just a wierd conspiracy theory, it is also patronising to Mr A who has his own take on the world. If truth is told, your 'anti fascist in crowd', turned up in its usual bullying manner to try and assert hegemony again.

B) The evidence that you are in denial is in this quote, where you say it is Mr A's fault totally, that you (inc. collective you) played no part in the escalation. There can be no fault, ever, with your presentation. Oh No. Hahahaha

Get over it, it's not that serious as I said.
 
The Black Hand said:
‘Many a struggle of a sectional character will be necessary before the workers are able to resort to common action for the final overthrow of the wages system; education of the economically class conscious variety receives its best stimulus by means of a strike for better conditions...

Those who determine simply to theorise and to argue interminably as to the most logical method get left high and dry by the workers movement which takes its own course.”

Tom Mann “The Path to Power” in “Solidarity” March 1914, emphasis added.
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So, are you attempting to claim that posters on this forum mostly "theorise and argue interminably" (except for yourself, of course. You're busy "giving history the meaning you see fit")? If so, that's a pisspoor attempt at denigration that relies far more on your assumptions than on any putative knowledge you have.
 
okgirl said:
You are even lower than that:eek:
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How's that then, am I one of those "race-traitors" you and your ilk fantasise about lynching, or is my being a Jew the problem for you, you fine example of Aryan womanhood?

Or perhaps you're just stupid and are talking shit, in line with most of your contributions on this thread?
 
MrA said:
Which you haven't, look up the definition of a lie. :rolleyes:

Since joining U75 all the far lefties have been every bit as bad as the far righties that I encounter on forums.

1. One dimensional thinking.
2. Believe that only they are 100% right.
3. Attack the construction and sementics of a post rather than debate the issue.
4. Have to "win" at all costs.

So, before this degenerates into a pointless full scale flame fest I'm going to stop. There,you can claim you won now, :) Well done. ;)
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E hem!
 
"Operation Fightback"

It's a technique used by right wingnuts the world over to make their numbers appear greater than they actually are and render online polls utterly useless for statistical purposes.
 
ViolentPanda said:
So, are you attempting to claim that posters on this forum mostly "theorise and argue interminably" (except for yourself, of course. You're busy "giving history the meaning you see fit")? If so, that's a pisspoor attempt at denigration that relies far more on your assumptions than on any putative knowledge you have.
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All your projection VP. Trying to guess why I posted that is not only meaningless it is pointless.
 
ViolentPanda said:
A) This presupposes, though, that your definition of "old left/ultra-left" corresponds with historical actuality rather than mythology, and so far you've done little to convince that this is indeed the case.

B) In fact, isn't it one of your bug-bears that there's no unitary movement for you to lead convince into action with the force of your arguments

C) If this site is shite, why soil yourself by contributing to it? Could it be because you're one of those people who needs an audience, however many tomatoes they pelt you with? :)

D) So this is about immortality for you, a form of immortality through leaving a political legacy, through leaving your mark in the class struggle?
If so then it's not about your "class struggle priorities", surely, but about your need or desire for recognition?
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A) That should read 'convince VP that this is indeed the case'.

B) No no , I have constantly argued for pluralism.

C) I look every now and again. I am not at all worried by the shite Butch et al post, its virtually all ultra left crap:eek::D I like to add a different perspective as an alternative to the ultra left, see this page for the example; http://www.urban75.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=312188&page=6&highlight=soft+left+ultra

D) Again, trying to look for contradictions where there is none, is not useful here ie. leaving a political legacy is built out of political priorities, there is no contradiction. I certainly do not need nor want recognition from U75, I get my recognition elsewhere:)

I do not think the 'my way or the highway' approach to anti fascism should remain unchallenged, cos its ultra left crap:)
 
The Black Hand said:
A) That should read 'convince VP that this is indeed the case'.

B) No no , I have constantly argued for pluralism.

C) I look every now and again. I am not at all worried by the shite Butch et al post, its virtually all ultra left crap:eek::D I like to add a different perspective as an alternative to the ultra left, see this page for the example; http://www.urban75.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=312188&page=6&highlight=soft+left+ultra

D) Again, trying to look for contradictions where there is none, is not useful here ie. leaving a political legacy is built out of political priorities, there is no contradiction. I certainly do not need nor want recognition from U75, I get my recognition elsewhere:)

I do not think the 'my way or the highway' approach to anti fascism should remain unchallenged, cos its ultra left crap:)
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Your right, but have no chance of challenging their arrogant elitist 'my way or the highway' approach to anti fascism this thread was partialy meant to delineate. http://www.urban75.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=295431
 
The Black Hand said:
A) In denial still Butch, you are 100% right and there ARE no problems with the form and content of what you write after all. hahahaha. I said there were problems ages ago, several other INDEPENDENT people noticed it, and STILL you are in denial.

Its not a fatal flaw in your politics, a small one, and i have already said how easily it can be improved. I/we manipulated no one - that is just a wierd conspiracy theory, it is also patronising to Mr A who has his own take on the world. If truth is told, your 'anti fascist in crowd', turned up in its usual bullying manner to try and assert hegemony again.

B) The evidence that you are in denial is in this quote, where you say it is Mr A's fault totally, that you (inc. collective you) played no part in the escalation. There can be no fault, ever, with your presentation. Oh No. Hahahaha

Get over it, it's not that serious as I said.
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with addled old brains, comes delusion.:D
 
LLETSA said:
So much pluralism have we got that no workers' movement worthy of the name exists anymore.
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Pluralism did not cause it though. The working class movement has forgotten how to reproduce itself in a positive critical way. The way out of this is not old and sterile 'my way or the highway party forms', it is through pluralism, tolerance, class struggle and movement(s). :)
 
ResistanceMP3 said:
quick learner. so stop wasting your time, do what you think is most productive.

SAD! Any real anarchist know's, having a variety of approaches to the same problem, differences of opinion, is a good thing.
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I have to agree, intellectual prowess is not displayed by trying to create an homogenous approach, the 'real world' simply isn't like that.
 
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