BNP leader faces jail!!
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The Black Hand
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It is easy to see where that p.o.v. can come from though isn't it.
All you seem to do is big up their policy and say how effective they are.
It is not suprising when you read it to assume that you are an apologist for them, as you keep the ANTI BNP part so very well hidden.
butchersapron
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Where have i bigged up the BNP policy on anything? Please, don't do this.
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Posts of yours such as this one;
http://www.urban75.net/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=10177145&postcount=76
This post, found without much effort, is your typical non committal description of their policy. You do not condemn it, you describe it. I do not think that is radical at all. It certainly is not opposed to the BNP policy IN THAT POST OF YOURS is it?
Now, I admit we need to know what they ARE saying but I do not think such lack of opposition to them helps at all.
I've said similar things before, merely reflecting what the BNP are saying and bigging it up (not only you) is not radical politics. 'Bigging it up' here is a descriptive term I use to label 'non oppositional description of the BNP and saying how effective the BNP are' when I see it.
butchersapron
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Do click that link people -it's amazing.
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butchersapron
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Do more of this.
The Black Hand
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You gone wierd Butch, your point is lost in cyberspace (if there was a point btw).
In short, non committal description of BNP policy IS misleading. It looks like apology, in some cases, when describing the BNP and how effective they are you appear to be cheerleading them (not only you). As other people have spotted this, surely then you can see that that approach leads to these impressions. I'm saying this not to have a go at you personally (but of course the impression is otherwise).
In short, non committal description of BNP policy IS misleading. It looks like apology, in some cases, when describing the BNP and how effective they are you appear to be cheerleading them (not only you). As other people have spotted this, surely then you can see that that approach leads to these impressions. I'm saying this not to have a go at you personally (but of course the impression is otherwise).
Random
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The39thStep
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Well sure, but is the right way just to parrot their manifesto at face value?
Griffin has softened the party line to widen their appeal. Is that evidence that his ultimate aims have actually changed to those stated on the manifesto? Did the Tories mention that they were planning on breaking the unions via the miner's strike on their manifesto? I'd say caricatures are pretty helpful in reminding us of where people truly sit on the political landscape. Manifestos are a toned down veneer.
MrA
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Me said:
And I asked you for your position, if I have impleid that you're a BNP sympathiser and you;re not, then I'll apologise unreservedly. But you have to admit, even after I conceded the point on explicit policy you still have been vague.
So what is your position on the BNP, do you believe that the BNP do not have an agenda to repatriate non whites? I'm interested to know your views and why?
MrA
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I conceded the point on policy here. I admit to being blickered to the obvious regarding the wording.
But I still maintain that when you pick throught their mini manifesto, the last election manifesto and their constitution there is at best an agenda for non white repatriation or, as I believe, it is their policy to repatriate non whites.
I'd be happy for you or butchers to actually post someting that contradicts this other than, "no it isn't", after all this is a discussion board and if there's a compelling reason why I am wrong then I'm happy to concede it.
If this about "winning" over the incorrect use of the statement "BNP policy for repatriation" by me then great you win.
MrA
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I've only been here a short while and I really don't know Butchersapron, but as a newcomer reading his post on this thread I hope he can understand my confusion at his position on the BNP because of his reticence to elaborate.
It was only after Violentpanda responded to my intial posts pointing out that the stated policy of the BNP was not the forced repatriation of non whites did the penny for for me. I'd being persuing a false point, I have conceded that. When I went on to make the case I should have at the start regarding the BNP underlying intent I thought he'd accept my concession in good faith and take it form there.
JimW
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Perhaps we should precede any political discussion with a quote from the collected works or a loyalty dance, just in case any hard-of-thinking are tuning in. Jesus wept.
MrA
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It would be easier to have a position to start from, particulary if it's requested, clears up any misunderstandings in the long run.
goldenecitrone
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this i always found odd esp when he supports an ex AFA party
The Black Hand
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Jesus did indeed weep, sobbing about left arrogance.
You cannot assume people reading a bulletin board are knowledgeable about the political affiliations, history and beliefs of people posting. Thus, by all means keep your analysis but INCLUDE some opposition then people can clearly see the point of the discussion. Simple. (that was my meercat.com impression btw).
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Its jus arrogance I fink Trev.
MrA
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I just got the impression he was trying to score cheap points to "win" some kind of forum contest.
butchersapron
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Hang on, you accuse me of being a BNP supporter after i had to point out to you that you were wrong about BNP policy and somehow i'm in the wrong? You call me a racist and i'm the one whose has to make amends?
JimW
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Jesus did indeed weep, sobbing about left arrogance.
You cannot assume people reading a bulletin board are knowledgeable about the political affiliations, history and beliefs of people posting. Thus, by all means keep your analysis but INCLUDE some opposition then people can clearly see the point of the discussion. Simple. (that was my meercat.com impression btw).
It's far more arrogant to presume everyone but you is too thick to follow an argument without subtitles. A post on what the content of BNP policy actually is will be either right or wrong regardless of the motivations for making it; if you want to add analysis in your own comment go ahead, but the idea you can't make a statement of fact without some auto da fe to accompany is bollocks IMO.
butchersapron
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Makes perfect sense if you think about it. Go on.
MrA
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I implied that you might be a BNP sympathiser and qualified that with I could be wrong but you hid it well by being evasive.
Please post where I called you a racist and I'll retract it.
And I accepted quite a while back that I was wrong about the policy and tried to expand on it. You seemed more concerned about scoring a points win. If anything I was trying to make amends.
MrA
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Then why don't explain why it makes perfect sense? Because to some of us it doesn't.
butchersapron
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Explain what?
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