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Monte said:
Has he got good teeth?
Maybe dry biscuits are painful to eat if he's getting old and his gums are a bit sensitive.
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He's been down to 2 teeth (his lower canines) for about 5 years now and due to his health condition and medication he has a vet checkup every 3 months including having his mouth checked (as mouth ulcers and sores can be a thing with CKD cats) and there are no new issues there. Lack of teeth is generally not a problem for either wet or dry food, only for killing live food, he has been having to bring me live mice because he can't easily kill them with no teeth, although I did once find one that somewhat alarmingly looked as though it had been gummed to death - very misshapen and extremely soggy 😫 but his mouth and (2) teeth are fine for commercial cat food that doesn't need killing/eviscerating, and have been checked very recently.

Saul Goodman said:
Refusing to eat 'old' food isn't unusual for cats. They can be fussy little gits.
Mine get a mixture of dry and wet. Most will eat everything but Spud picks out the wet food and leaves the dry. Can't blame him really, as it's probably tastier, but the dry stuff is usually better, and definitely cheaper.
When my dog stopped eating dry food, I put it down to his teeth, and no way was I going to feed him just tinned food, as I couldn't afford it at the time, so I started sprinkling gravy granules on his food and pouring boiling water over it, then let it cool before feeding it to him, and he loved it. Might be worth a try with Jakey.
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Most gravy granules contain onion powder or onion oil which is toxic to cats, and they pretty much all contain salt which as he is in chronic renal failure he definitely shouldn't have!
I am not going to be giving him gravy.
And this is something that has been gradually coming on for a while, it might not be unusual for cats in general, but it's unusual for this specific cat, and "old" food for him means if he's not seen me put it in his bowl and wanted to eat it right then, 5 minutes later it's "old". It's been getting worse, I just need to feed him more of what he likes eating instead of offering him something he's losing interest in. And yes he's been to the vet recently and it's been discussed with the vet.
 
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We're kind of at this stage with Paddy, who has early stage kidney failure and needs renal food as much as possible. He eats better if one stands over him and/or mashes up any food older than about ten minutes.

ION Pad got chased by a fox last week. I always subscribed to the view that foxes and cats left each other alone, but this fox chased him down the garden and luckily my OH was around to let him in the house, with the fox attempting to bite him :eek:. We weren't convinced he hadn't been bitten, although I inspected him for blood and puncture wounds but couldn't see anything. So a vet visit and £180 :eek: later he was deemed to be OK but given a painkiller as he did seem to be sensitive around his back, where the fox had tried to have a go.

Saw the Not So Fantastic Mr Fox yesterday and felt like telling him we'll accept cash or card.
 
oryx said:
We're kind of at this stage with Paddy, who has early stage kidney failure and needs renal food as much as possible. He eats better if one stands over him and/or mashes up any food older than about ten minutes.

ION Pad got chased by a fox last week. I always subscribed to the view that foxes and cats left each other alone, but this fox chased him down the garden and luckily my OH was around to let him in the house, with the fox attempting to bite him :eek:. We weren't convinced he hadn't been bitten, although I inspected him for blood and puncture wounds but couldn't see anything. So a vet visit and £180 :eek: later he was deemed to be OK but given a painkiller as he did seem to be sensitive around his back, where the fox had tried to have a go.

Saw the Not So Fantastic Mr Fox yesterday and felt like telling him we'll accept cash or card.
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OMG, poor Paddy!
Glad to hear he seems to be OK although ugh to vet bills - ours is now £50 just for a consultation.
Vet bills have recently been the subject of a trading/monopolies investigation (on the basis that something like 80% of vet services in the UK are now provided by corporate chains whereas 20 or 30 years ago a similar % was provided by independent vets - I can't recall the exact figures and it's late so I'm not going to dig out the exact figures with sources right now so don't quote me on that, but it's something along those lines), and from what I can work out, the outcome of that was "vets need to be clearer about what they charge on their websites" :facepalm:

In terms of the food issue, my Jakey has always always been a greedy wee pig, he was obese when I got him at 1 year old and was food aggressive at first to the point where I had to feed him separately from the other cats or he'd bully them away from their bowls and scoff their food too, he has always bullied and begged us for food when we are eating, and he is prone to bolting his food and bringing it back up (which isn't helped by the fact he also for the last couple of years has had chronic pancreatitis as well as his kidney issues).
He has always preferred wet food to dry food though, he goes bonkers when I bring him a wet meal and has been gradually going off the renal dry (we've tried 2 flavours of it) while he still scoffs the wet (and begs us for meat/fish/cheese/eggs/potato off our plates, which he is not allowed to have), so I just think that putting him on wet is better for him at this point regardless of the price, rather than him not eating enough.
 
Epona said:
OMG, poor Paddy!
Glad to hear he seems to be OK although ugh to vet bills - ours is now £50 just for a consultation.
Vet bills have recently been the subject of a trading/monopolies investigation (on the basis that something like 80% of vet services in the UK are now provided by corporate chains whereas 20 or 30 years ago a similar % was provided by independent vets - I can't recall the exact figures and it's late so I'm not going to dig out the exact figures with sources right now so don't quote me on that, but it's something along those lines), and from what I can work out, the outcome of that was "vets need to be clearer about what they charge on their websites" :facepalm:

In terms of the food issue, my Jakey has always always been a greedy wee pig, he was obese when I got him at 1 year old and was food aggressive at first to the point where I had to feed him separately from the other cats or he'd bully them away from their bowls and scoff their food too, he has always bullied and begged us for food when we are eating, and he is prone to bolting his food and bringing it back up (which isn't helped by the fact he also for the last couple of years has had chronic pancreatitis as well as his kidney issues).
He has always preferred wet food to dry food though, he goes bonkers when I bring him a wet meal and has been gradually going off the renal dry (we've tried 2 flavours of it) while he still scoffs the wet (and begs us for meat/fish/cheese/eggs/potato off our plates, which he is not allowed to have), so I just think that putting him on wet is better for him at this point regardless of the price, rather than him not eating enough.
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Paddy is okay now, thanks, although yesterday he did make the strangest noise I've ever heard him make when he saw the fox through the French doors at the back. My OH reckons he was dying to be let out and was saying 'Come and have a go if you think you're hard enough!'. He's not going out unsupervised now. Luckily, he's a 95% indoor cat these days.

I saw the thing about vets and a possible investigation into them not being transparent over pricing. You do always have to ask for a breakdown of cots after hearing something like 'Oh, that's £220, please' for an examination and a blood test. And yes, it is hard to find an independent vet nowadays, which was't the case only a few years ago.
 
Epona said:
At least he didn't jump up on you and drop it still alive on your lap gives Jakey a stern look :hmm:
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I wish someone was here to record me running around the room, trying to catch him. I spent 20 minutes trying to relieve him of his new friend/meal, and whenever I got near him, he'd grab the mouse, run to the other side of the room, drop the mouse, and continue playing :facepalm::D
 
Saul Goodman said:
I wish someone was here to record me running around the room, trying to catch him. I spent 20 minutes trying to relieve him of his new friend/meal, and whenever I got near him, he'd grab the mouse, run to the other side of the room, drop the mouse, and continue playing :facepalm::D
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N once came home from work and found the cats (back when I had 3) racing around the flat and scrapping over something, with me trailing round from room to room behind them with a plastic takeaway container (so as I'd have something to put the mouse in for removal from the premises once I'd got it off them) - apparently it was a completely bonkers and chaotic scene :D
 
Epona said:
N once came home from work and found the cats (back when I had 3) racing around the flat and scrapping over something, with me trailing round from room to room behind them with a plastic takeaway container (so as I'd have something to put the mouse in for removal from the premises once I'd got it off them) - apparently it was a completely bonkers and chaotic scene :D
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I gave up trying to emancipate the mouse, as I was in danger of sustaining a serious injury 🤕 😁
 
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