World War III

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“We’ve been in this for a long time, and we’ve failed to recognize it,” Fiona Hill

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“I spoke with the Russia expert Fiona Hill She told me she believes there’s an element of self-delusion to much of the current commentary about the possibility of Washington and the West continuing to back Ukraine while avoiding conflict with Putin—who, after all, launched his war against Ukraine not in February but eight years ago when he invaded the country and illegally annexed the Crimean Peninsula. As far as Hill is concerned, we are already fighting in the Third World War, whether we acknowledge it or not. “We’ve been in this for a long time, and we’ve failed to recognize it,” she said.”

What if We’re Already Fighting the Third World War with Russia?

Putin’s latest provocations once again put Washington in an awful bind.

www.newyorker.com

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Welcome to the WW III thread.

 

[WhyLikeThis]

Iran is flexing

 

[bcuster]

During the "sitzkrieg" very few realized that the globe was on the precipice of catastrophe...

Phoney War - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

 

[WhyLikeThis]

Medvedev is threatening Israel if they supply weapons to Ukraine

Russia’s Medvedev fumes as Israeli minister calls for weapons to Kyiv

Medvedev’s warning comes a day after senior Israeli official called for reviewing the country’s non-interventionist strategy.

www.politico.eu

 

[WhyLikeThis]

During the "sitzkrieg" very few realized that the globe was on the precipice of catastrophe...

Phoney War - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

There potential parallels with the Spanish Revolution (as a warm up for WWII) for being a testing ground for military hardware and techniques, tactics and procedures.

 

[WhyLikeThis]

Serious nuclear conversations are being conducted

 

[likesfish]

Trouble was Hitlers Spanish legion was effective and learned to perfect things.

Russias gone from the big scary bear to an angry hamster that's importing doodle bugs from that military behemonth iran.

Ukraines been reduced to capturing 1960 relics off Russian forces.
If Russia attacked NATO the shooting would go on until either Poland ran out of targets or decided to show mercy which is pretty unlikely.

Russias got nukes and that's all its got and they are probably in a poor state of repair. Russias defence budget is not much bigger than the UKs. Even doubling that and paying personnel in cabbages still doesn't cover the maintence logistics flight hours etc etc to have all the hardware they claim they have operational.

 

[Rimbaud]

Medvedev is threatening Israel if they supply weapons to Ukraine

Russia’s Medvedev fumes as Israeli minister calls for weapons to Kyiv

Medvedev’s warning comes a day after senior Israeli official called for reviewing the country’s non-interventionist strategy.

www.politico.eu

I don't think Russia is in any position to threaten Israel, seeing as they are still yet to take control of Donetsk after what is now 8 years of fighting.

 

[WhyLikeThis]

Trouble was Hitlers Spanish legion was effective and learned to perfect things.

Russias gone from the big scary bear to an angry hamster that's importing doodle bugs from that military behemonth iran.

Ukraines been reduced to capturing 1960 relics off Russian forces.
If Russia attacked NATO the shooting would go on until either Poland ran out of targets or decided to show mercy which is pretty unlikely.

Russias got nukes and that's all its got and they are probably in a poor state of repair. Russias defence budget is not much bigger than the UKs. Even doubling that and paying personnel in cabbages still doesn't cover the maintence logistics flight hours etc etc to have all the hardware they claim they have operational.

All while Xi sharpens knives

Ex-RAF jet pilots offered £250,000 to train up Chinese armed forces

The government said it would seek to change the law to punish pilots who take part.

metro.co.uk

 

[WhyLikeThis]

I don't think Russia is in any position to threaten Israel, seeing as they are still yet to take control of Donetsk after what is now 8 years of fighting.

The threat wasn’t direct military kinetic threat. There’s a fair bit of collaboration between the states that Russia is alluding to being at stake.

 

[Pickman's model]

from fm 3-0 operations, 1 october 2022

you don't pivot to preparing for large-scale combat operations unless you think they're coming up fast. the big one in 2025 is still go.

 

[WhyLikeThis]

“Whether you want to call it wartime contracting or emergency contracting, we can’t play around anymore,” the aide said. “We can’t pussyfoot around with minimum-sustaining-rate buys of these munitions. It’s hard to think of something as high on everybody’s list as buying a ton of munitions for the next few years, for our operational plans against China and continuing to supply Ukraine.”

Lawmakers seek emergency powers for Pentagon’s Ukraine war contracting

Proposal aims at ramp up the U.S. defense industrial base and helping European allies arm up.

www.defensenews.com

 

[Pickman's model]

Lawmakers seek emergency powers for Pentagon’s Ukraine war contracting

Proposal aims at ramp up the U.S. defense industrial base and helping European allies arm up.

www.defensenews.com

happy days are here again, this is just the sort of thing to get the economy out of the doldrums

 

[not-bono-ever]

I can’t fucking wait for Armageddon TBH. Let’s put us out of our misery

 

[strung out]

Serious nuclear conversations are being conducted

Not saying its not got anything to do with nuclear threats, but I think it's as likely something to do with the fact that news has just broken that apparently 30 ex RAF fighter pilots are working with the Chinese air force, teaching them how to defeat western warplanes.

 

[Pickman's model]

Not saying its not got anything to do with nuclear threats, but I think it's as likely something to do with the fact that news has just broken that apparently 30 ex RAF fighter pilots are working with the Chinese air force, teaching them how to defeat western warplanes.

i see the auld '30 pieces of silver' traitors' wages has gone up somewhat

 

[Pickman's model]

I can’t fucking wait for Armageddon TBH. Let’s put us out of our misery

fuck armageddon this is hell

 

[kebabking]

i see the auld '30 pieces of silver' traitors' wages has gone up somewhat

Hotel bills = Chinese economy tanking...

 

[kebabking]

Not saying its not got anything to do with nuclear threats, but I think it's as likely something to do with the fact that news has just broken that apparently 30 ex RAF fighter pilots are working with the Chinese air force, teaching them how to defeat western warplanes.

i doubt Wallace has chinned off parliament to go to the US to talk about this.

i imagine its something much more serious..

 

[Pickman's model]

i doubt Wallace has chinned off parliament to go to the US to talk about this.

i imagine its something much more serious..

 

[platinumsage]

So did WWI actually start in e.g. 1904 or whatever, or are we just declaring arms races to be global conflicts now?

 

[not-bono-ever]

You could argue that WW3 started when the powers started the scramble for territory after Germany surrendered. And began nit picking over what had been agreed a year or two earlier. We have been at war ever since directly or indirectly. US planes to nuke everyone preemptively before the dust had settled over Berlin are well known

 

[likesfish]

Russia lost in 97 poo tins justthe dead cat bounce.

The RAF teaching the Chinese the mighty f3 ace dogfighter.
Helicopters always refuse to pick the troops up if there's anything decent on TV or its mealtime or you just can't be arsed.
Plus the vital importance of the triumph stag

 

[friedaweed]

If this is WW3 will Adel end up being the new Vera Lynn?

 

[Ming]

I can’t fucking wait for Armageddon TBH. Let’s put us out of our misery

I know. First we had a global financial crisis then a global disease pandemic. Well that was boring. Now we’ve got a hot war in Europe with nuclear potential. My misanthropic nihilistic tendencies have blue balls and demand release.

 

[A380]

i see the auld '30 pieces of silver' traitors' wages has gone up somewhat

I got various briefings on the threats I might face in visiting China from their intelligence services: “approaches by ‘academics’ or ‘businesses people’ offering free tickets to entertainment, invitations to meals with lavish food and drink, upgrades to hotel accommodation, gifts of Jewellery or other high value goods, occasionally even cash or sexual favours.”

Three times I went and bloody nothing.

 

[WhyLikeThis]

So did WWI actually start in e.g. 1904 or whatever, or are we just declaring arms races to be global conflicts now?

Sorry “World Special Military Operation III”.

 

[Ming]

I got various briefings on the threats I might face in visiting China from their intelligence services: “approaches by ‘academics’ or ‘businesses people’ offering free tickets to entertainment, invitations to meals with lavish food and drink, upgrades to hotel accommodation, gifts of Jewellery or other high value goods, occasionally even cash or sexual favours.”

Three times I went and bloody nothing.

Is that why you keep going back?

 

[gosub]

happy days are here again, this is just the sort of thing to get the economy out of the doldrums

At current rate of production will take >7 years for Lockhead Martin to manufacture that many HIMARS

 

[Ming]

At current rate of production will take >7 years for Lockhead Martin to manufacture that many HIMARS

Isn't it terrible? Rationally it's redonculous.