And Dave (who is a hero) is still proud of his former Posadism
Workers Power have split
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And Dave (who is a hero) is still proud of his former Posadism
Red Storm
M14
I swear! I don't know how I've missed out on that one!
Just spotted Workers Fight on that chart (the 1970s one). I've got some original copies of its earliest literature.
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
They were proper cunts on this occasion though. That put me off them. Apparently they have also (allegedly) used brainwashing and sleep-deprivation techniques on new recruits as well.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
That's from a very poor Big Flame pamphlet called The Revolution Unfinished? A Critique of Trotskyism from 1977.
Red Storm
M14
That's what put you off them! I thought they had some weird hand gesture where you make a 'W' with both hands for 'Workers Bomb'
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
Yeah. Proper cunts mate, this guy had goe to India and Sri Lanka, and was describing some truly terrible stuff, villagers shot by militias working on behalf of a large company, being expelled from land, people dragged from hospital beds and shot, people having their hands cut off for being on strike etc. And then some sparts stand up and accuse him, basically, of being fash, and agreeing with what he was criticising.
To be honest prior to seeing them in action I had thought they were a joke made up by private eye.
To be honest prior to seeing them in action I had thought they were a joke made up by private eye.
Nigel Irritable
Five, Ten, Fifteen Years
It's a two way fight between the "Liaison Committee of Militants for a Revolutionary Communist International" and the "British Section of the Workers International to Rebuild the Fourth International". Nobody else is even in the running.
I'm telling ya it was a running joke between me and a mutual friend of ours for a good 12 months, you must've heard us all drunken shouting about The Workers Bomb whilst crying Long Live Posadas lol
Red Storm
M14
Yes I remember Workers Bomb but not the other chap.
SpineyNorman
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And before this there was the Marxist league, and before that the Communist League and before that the Balham group and before that (sort of anyway) The Marxian League.
That's exactly what I was on about with the family tree - desperately needs bringing up to date.
SpineyNorman
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That pales into insignificance when compared to a split in the mighty workers' power though.
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
What the fuck?
I also heard that the rank and file sparts are not allowed on the internet. Is that true?
I hope it is! I burst out laughing when I read that
One_Stop_Shop
Well-Known Member
The irony of this thread is that I suspect that a lot of the posters are in far left sects themselves.
That was basically the case for working class SWP members as well.
Name and shame then?
Red Storm
M14
Not I!
I think a lot of grounded people in left wing sects know they're in sects. Doesn't really matter does it.
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
wtf really?
Not when I was in it, in the late 90s.
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
I never you'd been in the swp roadkill.
This is it, everyone knows what these groups are like, only the very naive and the very needy go in there believing them to be the solution to the problems of capitalism. My attitude is there's a desprate need for a new left-wing mass party in this country, one that's not part of the Leninist canon, and if that's gonna happen the rank and file members of these organizations are the ones who'll need to take the initiative on that. The leadership won't.
SpineyNorman
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Seriously? I wasn't in the SWP all that long but nobody ever said anything to me about not going on the net.
Solidarnosc who used to post on here got told off because of it, yeah technically it wasn't a class thing but generally those members bot allowed were working class in pratctice
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
In 1995 they banned participation by members in a particular list offering amongst other reasons the fact that they had not asked the CC if it was ok first.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
He would've been about 10 at the time!
In 2000 - 2002 I remember them telling people not to get involeved
Nigel Irritable
Five, Ten, Fifteen Years
Not quite. SWP members were forbidden from participating in a particular internet discussion forum at some point in the mid 1990s. They weren't forbidden from being on the internet!
They do have something of a cultural opposition to internet forums though. It's not a rule, but their members rarely participate in online discussion outside of their house blog Lenin's Tomb.
(edited to add, beaten to it by butchersapron).
nah not in 2001/2 he was in his late teens
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