Woolwich soldier killed (was "Did cops just shoot 2 dead in woolwich?")

[Sprocket.]

Anyone know how badly injured the 2 alleged asailents are. Conscious, critical etc?


Who needs Al Quida, planes and bombs, when a couple of motivated murderess nutcases can do this. On any high street any where.

Islamonut murder is one way to get your 15 mins of fame.

Horrific though it is, I suppose it could have been even worse. If the murderers had been determined to maximise the carnage, they could easily have left the street littered with dismembered corpses, but it seems that after murdering some squaddie these gentlemen were content to pose for photos, wait for Plod and then launch a hopeless attack, knowing that Plod almost certainly had guns and would know how to use them.

This horror illustrates a point many have made for years: that if you are determined to murder, you don't need to spend any time in training camps in Pakistan, Afghanistan, Somalia or any other exotic location. Given the will, the ruthlessness and easily available weapons, anyone can commit an atrocity.

That's terrorism folks!

 

[stuff_it]

What gentlemen, totally commendable behaviour... after they just killed attempted to chop somebodies head off that is.

The rise of the chap in extremist terrorism. Next time it will be some extremists attempting to kill someone whilst sticking the the Marquess of Queensberry rules.

 

[JHE]

What gentlemen, totally commendable behaviour... after they just killed and attempted to chop somebodies head off that is.

Nothing commendable about it. If you read approval of Islamonuttery in my post, you misread it.

 

[Frumious B.]

Christ, just seen the guy on the news holding the meat cleaver, his hands bright red with blood. What a nightmare image. I feel ill.

 

[cdg]

Nothing commendable about it. If you read approval of Islamonuttery in my post, you misread it.

What point were you trying to make in the paragraph I quoted?

 

[Pickman's model]

The rise of the chap in extremist terrorism. Next time it will be some extremists attempting to kill someone whilst sticking the the Marquess of Queensberry rules.

Sticking them where?

 

[Pickman's model]

Nothing commendable about it. If you read approval of Islamonuttery in my post, you misread it.

Nothing commendable about it IYO. Other people may think differently.

 

[paulhackett]

Thank goodness people are starting to leave floral tributes. You'd have been forgiven for thinking the world had gone completely mad if they hadn't. .

 

[mrsfran]

It's on the ITV website too. Jesus.

 

[ItWillNeverWork]

Is the age of the victim known?

 

[JimW]

Is the age of the victim known?

Read 20 in one report IIRC

 

[JHE]

What point were you trying to make in the paragraph I quoted?

I can't see anything obscure in what I said. What is it you find difficult to understand?

 

[5t3IIa]

Is the age of the victim known?

No much about him at all. The police must be trying to find his mum.

 

[skyscraper101]

 

[ItWillNeverWork]

On the BBC they are still tip-toeing around calling it a terrorist attack. Have they not seen the video of the attacker talking about his motives?

 

[ItWillNeverWork]

No much about him at all. The police must be trying to find his mum.

Yep.

 

[5t3IIa]

Oh for gods sake, don't be such a twat. It's perfectly clear what he's saying. Do you live in a hole, you smug chortling cunt?

 

[Sasaferrato]

he's grinning at the bloke (ETA the tweeting witness) making this extraordinarily gruesome attack only one of the "top three" mad things he's seen, not belittling the attack itself.

Ah, my mistake. Sorry.

 

[elbows]

Some tweets:

The BBC's Nick Robinson tweets: "To those offended by my describing the attacker as of "Muslim appearance" - I was directly quoting a Whitehall source quoting the police."

@fateiskind
Should I one day go ballistic and commit and atrocious crime, I hope they say on the news that the suspect is of 'agnostic appearance'.

‏

@MichaelLCrick

12m​

I understand senior govt figures not happy that video of man with knives justifying Woolwich killing was shown on ITV, C4 + C5

@JoshHalliday

11m​

ITV News left out a bit of the shocking #Woolwich video for legal reasons, I'm told.

 

[Frumious B.]

I'm glad the killers are alive and British. It will be interesting to see what they say at their trial and whether they show any remorse after decades in prison.

 

[skyscraper101]

Oh for gods sake, don't be such a twat. It's perfectly clear what he's saying. Do you live in a hole, you smug chortling cunt?

Yes. Obviously I made that graphic specially because I don't understand.

 

[stuff_it]

Yes. Cos I made that graphic because I don't understand.

What, that pretending to need a translator for slang isn't racist? Or was it something else that you didn't understand.

 

[Sasaferrato]

Fffffuck.

Is that what a Muslim looks like then? Can I get a confirmation form Nick Robinson on this?

There certainly has been some very mixed reporting on this. I'm still not entirely clear what happened.

It appears that two men in a car deliberately ran into a third man, whom they then hacked to death. Subsequent to this, they stood, weapons in hand, awaiting the arrival of the police. When the police arrived, the men threatened them to the extent that the police opened fire, wounding both men. The men are being teated in separate London hospitals.

Does that sum it up accurately?

 

[elbows]

Facepalm @ ITV news report signing off with 'the day Baghdad style violence came to London'.

 

[marty21]

on my FB - my niece has just tweeted something from English National Resistance

THEY'VE KILLED ONE OF OUR BOYS IN WOOLWICH, S.E LONDON!
KICK THE BASTARDS OUT NOW! SHARE AND LIKE!

family

ironically, my niece emigrated to this country, her grandfather emigrated to Australia, her great grandfather emigrated to Canada

 

[Brixton Hatter]

There's been a couple of other cases of plots to kill/kidnap soldiers and police officers iirc - linked to the Taleban, which is why I assume they are considering it a 'terrorist attack' and why Cobra was called so quickly after the incident.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/7250697.stm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_plot_to_behead_a_British_Muslim_soldier

 

[JHE]

Should I one day go ballistic and commit and atrocious crime, I hope they say on the news that the suspect is of 'agnostic appearance'.

Well, yeah, if you shout 'I don't know if God exists! I'm really unsure about the whole question!' as you commit the crime and then make a statement to camera about your agnosticism, it would be fair to say you appeared to be an agnostic.

 

[skyscraper101]

What, that pretending to need a translator for slang isn't racist? Or was it something else that you didn't understand.

Oh ffs. Its just some crap lol gif. Racist? Give me a break that's just slang - no racial element to it. Don't pull that one.

 

[moonsi til]

Ch 4 news have reported about the EDL going out tonight.

 

[Sasaferrato]

I'm glad the killers are alive and British. It will be interesting to see what they say at their trial and whether they show any remorse after decades in prison.

The police do not normally shoot to wound. I wonder why they did so in this case?

Perhaps there will be answers to the obvious questions, which would not be the case if they had been killed.