Woolwich soldier killed (was "Did cops just shoot 2 dead in woolwich?")

[Brixton Hatter]

@MichaelLCrick
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I understand senior govt figures not happy that video of man with knives justifying Woolwich killing was shown on ITV, C4 + C5

Of course they're not fucking happy with the video - they can't control the news anymore.

And the guy says "remove your Government" !

 

[Lord Camomile]

There certainly has been some very mixed reporting on this. I'm still not entirely clear what happened.

It appears that two men in a car deliberately ran into a third man, whom they then hacked to death. Subsequent to this, they stood, weapons in hand, awaiting the arrival of the police. When the police arrived, the men threatened them to the extent that the police opened fire, wounding both men. The men are being teated in separate London hospitals.

Does that sum it up accurately?

Something like that, I think.

Ch 4 news have reported about the EDL going out tonight.

It's a couple of quiet pints then back in time for the cricket highlights, Sally.

Thanks Colin.

 

[Ranbay]

Ch 4 news have reported about the EDL going out tonight.

They have about 4-5k new likes on facebook today already.

 

[Frumious B.]

The police do not normally shoot to wound. I wonder why they did so in this case?

Perhaps there will be answers to the obvious questions, which would not be the case if they had been killed.

If. as reported somewhere, the killers ran up close to them to attack them with knives etc, it would have been difficult to draw, aim and fire quickly and accurately. My assumption is they shot to kill, but missed vital organs.

 

[fogbat]

The police do not normally shoot to wound. I wonder why they did so in this case?

I just assumed standard police incompetence.

 

[Lord Camomile]

Of course they're not fucking happy with the video - they can't control the news anymore.

And the guy says "remove your Government" !

It's (mildly) interesting that they haven't shown the first bit of the video, where he refers to Islam (if the quotes above are correct).

 

[Brixton Hatter]

It's (mildly) interesting that they haven't shown the first bit of the video, where he refers to Islam (if the quotes above are correct).

Yeah ITV cut that bit out - not sure if the others (C4, C5) did too.

There will be loads more footage out there too, which will come to light over the next few days.

 

[Brixton Hatter]

Ch 4 news have reported about the EDL going out tonight.

What, for a few beers?

 

[Barking_Mad]

If. as reported somewhere, the killers ran up close to them to attack them with knives etc, it would have been difficult to draw, aim and fire quickly and accurately. My assumption is they shot to kill, but missed vital organs.

TGhe report from he Twitter guy earlier said that one tried to shoot at the police with his gun but it just blew his own finger off.

 

[stuff_it]

Oh ffs. Its just some crap lol gif. Racist? Give me a break that's just slang - no racial element to it. Don't pull that one.

Why is it funny then? Lol, look at the deliberately illiterate sounding black person, lol at their culture? Why? I'd like to know.

 

[Buckaroo]

Of course they're not fucking happy with the video - they can't control the news anymore.

And the guy says "remove your Government" !

Glamorising terrorism innit. They'll have to dub the words with an actor's voice. That should do it.

 

[Mr.Bishie]

The police do not normally shoot to wound. I wonder why they did so in this case?

They're not allowed to hit people over the head with batons either.

 

[Epico]

Facepalm @ ITV news report signing off with 'the day Baghdad style violence came to London'.

I picked up on that too, typical ITN bullshit. Loathsome reporting.

 

[cdg]

I picked up on that too, typical ITN bullshit. Loathsome reporting.

Innit. I didn't think ITN were like that tbh. C4 certainly aren't and they are part of ITN.

 

[skyscraper101]

Why is it funny then? Lol, look at the deliberately illiterate sounding black person, lol at their culture? Why? I'd like to know.

There's nothing black in it. It's just slang..youth slang if you want, but nothing black in it that I can see. If that's the way it comes over then I'm genuinely sorry.

 

[spring-peeper]

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In his hand - is that the "machete"?

 

[ffsear]

There's nothing black in it. It's just slang..youth slang if you want, but nothing black in it that I can see. If that's the way it comes over then I'm genuinely sorry.

Careful! its far too easy to offend on here!

 

[Frumious B.]

In his hand - is that the "machete"?

In the video it looked to me like a meat cleaver.

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

In his hand - is that the "machete"?

Looks like a knife of some sort and a meat cleaver

 

[stuff_it]

There's nothing black in it. It's just slang..youth slang if you want, but nothing black in it that I can see. If that's the way it comes over then I'm genuinely sorry.

Fair enough.

Of course normal procedure for textspeak and slang makes it all pretty clear what he's saying anyway. Just read it out loud phonetically, innit. It's not hard to understand.

 

[spring-peeper]

This looks more like an extreme episode of Jackass.

 

[spring-peeper]

Looks like a knife of some sort and a meat cleaver

I'm Canucking, so give me a mo. I just found out about it, read a couple of news reports then attacked this thread.


But, yes, I'm having issues with the word "machete".

 

[weepiper]

It's a meat cleaver, but tbf if you were an eyewitness to that event you might be a bit confused and just grab for the nearest word that came to mind.

 

[spanglechick]

or there may also have been a machete which has been dropped or whatever.

 

[friedaweed]

There's nothing black in it. It's just slang..youth slang if you want, but nothing black in it that I can see. If that's the way it comes over then I'm genuinely sorry.

Aye my eldest is 22 and he talks like that all the time. He be white, lives in Dorset and is ginger da poor fool

Ay iz tellin his mom (Who says she doesn't understand a wordoh he speaks) long time now she iz not down wid gangsta speak an all ting yootful. She's just happy he doesn't talk like me and managed to escape the whiney scouse nasal toneage.

 

[cdg]

Aye my eldest is 22 and he talks like that all the time. He be white, lives in Dorset and is ginger da poor fool

Ay iz tellin his mom (Who says she doesn't understand a work he speaks) long time now she iz not down wid gangsta speak an all ting yootful. She's just happy he doesn't talk like me and managed to escape the whiney scouse nasal toneage.

Can you translate the part in red please

 

[spring-peeper]

The police do not normally shoot to wound. I wonder why they did so in this case?

Perhaps there will be answers to the obvious questions, which would not be the case if they had been killed.

Public pressure from good people like yourself to be more responsible.

 

[JimW]

Public pressure from good people like yourself to be more responsible.

Other way in UK IIRC, only shoot if you have to (needs killing) otherwise don't is the ideal.

 

[Sprocket.]

The police do not normally shoot to wound. I wonder why they did so in this case?

Perhaps there will be answers to the obvious questions, which would not be the case if they had been killed.

Exactly, dead men tell no tales, but the fact they are still alive may just be down to luck and not an intended result.

 

[spring-peeper]

It's a meat cleaver, but tbf if you were an eyewitness to that event you might be a bit confused and just grab for the nearest word that came to mind.

Yes, I agree.

The choice of the word machete tends to imply terrorism.
The choice of the word muslim as a description tends to imply terrorism.

Everyone seems to be drawn to the concept of anything evil is terrorism.


Terrorism seems to be the cool thing right now.