Woolwich soldier killed (was "Did cops just shoot 2 dead in woolwich?")

[telbert]

Yeah,t'is.

Withdrawn your honour.

 

[stuff_it]

Not tinfoiling, just trying to work out what was going on in that rather strange picture.

Look at the video I just posted then.

 

[Corax]

Don't think so. Look at length of jacket (on light jacket guy). His hair looks short as well.

Furthermore, if they were the only took attackers, then who are the police attending to on the ground

Light jacket guy's jacket looks creamy/beige whereas guy in group picture looks like he's wearing grey

Plus - Grey hoodie vs beige coat, jeans on the other guy are the wrong colour - the attackers in the video are absolutely not pictured in the group around the body in that shot. It's not even close. Bizarre conjecture tbh, I don't really see how anyone could confuse them.

 

[Lord Camomile]

@woolwichfinest

 

[wiskey]

I don't really disagree with their last statement tbf

 

[Jon-of-arc]

Speaks the voice of firearms experience, lolz

I've read enough reports of things like the Iranian embassy and what not to know that there's no such thing as a shoot to wound policy. Happy to be corrected, if you want to produce something. Funny how nobody walks away from armed response shootings alive, though.

 

[mk12]

wiskey

Whose? The killer's?

 

[ItWillNeverWork]

"...Remove your government."

As if we're even able to.

 

[5t3IIa]

@woolwichfinest

Gotta make a living

 

[wiskey]

wiskey

Whose? The killer's?

the gov't not caring bit.

 

[Pickman's model]

From Guardian:
"The man with the machete's full statement to the camera was:

"We swear by Almighty Allah we will never stop fighting you. The only reasons we have done this is because Muslims are dying every day. This British soldier is an eye for an eye a tooth for tooth. We apologise that women had to see this today but in our lands our women have to see the same. You people will never be safe. Remove your government. They don't care about you."​

That shows a nice spirit

 

[Corax]

I've read enough reports of things like the Iranian embassy and what not to know that there's no such thing as a shoot to wound policy. Happy to be corrected, if you want to produce something. Funny how nobody walks away from armed response shootings alive, though.

Aye. I've read/seen/heard plenty of SO19 (or whatever they are now) saying the same, so it seemed a fair point to me.

 

[skyscraper101]

I really hope they get that guy Boyadee on the TV.

Been watching some of his band Nu Brand Flexxx's music videos. Some of them are

 

[Lord Camomile]

Not sure why this thread is still going tbh, we've clearly answered the original question

 

[ItWillNeverWork]

It's just so fucking surreal in that video of the guy with the bloodied hands and meat cleaver. I wonder what the reaction of the lady with her shopping was when she realised what was going on.

 

[Pickman's model]

Aye. I've read/seen/heard plenty of SO19 (or whatever they are now) saying the same, so it seemed a fair point to me.

CO19

 

[Pickman's model]

Not sure why this thread is still going tbh, we've clearly answered the original question

You're new to urban, aren't you

 

[stuff_it]

I really hope they get that guy Boyadee on the TV.

Been watching some of his band Nu Brand Flexxx's music videos. Some of them are

I prefer my grime a bit faster tbh. That's one of the livlier tracks.

 

[Buckaroo]

There was probably an emergency services drill of EXACTLY this kind of scenario going on simultaneously.

 

[xenon]

Anyone know how badly injured the 2 alleged asailents are. Conscious, critical etc?


Who needs Al Quida, planes and bombs, when a couple of motivated murderess nutcases can do this. On any high street any where.

 

[JHE]

Islamonut murder is one way to get your 15 mins of fame.

Horrific though it is, I suppose it could have been even worse. If the murderers had been determined to maximise the carnage, they could easily have left the street littered with dismembered corpses, but it seems that after murdering some squaddie these gentlemen were content to pose for photos, wait for Plod and then launch a hopeless attack, knowing that Plod almost certainly had guns and would know how to use them.

This horror illustrates a point many have made for years: that if you are determined to murder, you don't need to spend any time in training camps in Pakistan, Afghanistan, Somalia or any other exotic location. Given the will, the ruthlessness and easily available weapons, anyone can commit an atrocity.

 

[sleaterkinney]

It's Nuts, I hope there's no copycat attacks.

 

[Buckaroo]

That shows a nice spirit

Well he respects women so that's one good thing.

 

[ItWillNeverWork]

This really does re-enforce the argument that our presence in Afghanistan is far more likely to increase terrorism than diminish it. Not that this is the conclusion that will be drawn from this by the state and media.

 

[JimW]

...
Who needs Al Quida, planes and bombs, when a couple of motivated murderess nutcases can do this. On any high street any where.

Not aiming this at you, but comment prompted the thought that a targeted attack using a pistol and blades on a member of the armed services is a different sort of terror to bombs in public spaces. Not even sure where I'm going with that but qualitatively different.

 

[silverfish]

I've read enough reports of things like the Iranian embassy and what not to know that there's no such thing as a shoot to wound policy. Happy to be corrected, if you want to produce something. Funny how nobody walks away from armed response shootings alive, though.

Post a single line of sense and i might consider an adult discussion.

While you are typing your response imagine a blood spattered man running towards you swinging a machete after he has just decapitated someone. Type straight now

 

[5t3IIa]

That shows a nice spirit

He's quite correct.

 

[Barking_Mad]

Just showed it on the BBC, noticed a woman with a trolley just walking past in the background! Must not have known what was going on!

Life imitates GTA.

 

[cdg]

Horrific though it is, I suppose it could have been even worse. If the murderers had been determined to maximise the carnage, they could easily have left the street littered with dismembered corpses, but it seems that after murdering some squaddie these gentlemen were content to pose for photos, wait for Plod and then launch a hopeless attack, knowing that Plod almost certainly had guns and would know how to use them.

What gentlemen, totally commendable behaviour... after they just killed and attempted to chop somebodies head off that is.

 

[ItWillNeverWork]

What gentlemen, totally commendable behaviour... after they just killed attempted to chop somebodies head off that is.

I think maybe you missed the point of JHE's post.