Woolwich soldier killed (was "Did cops just shoot 2 dead in woolwich?")

[TheHoodedClaw]

Another WTF image.

"yeah, just standing here chatting to the guy with the bloodied knife in his hand"

 

[stuff_it]

I'm talking out my arse mainly tbh; first thought was maybe if the gun had blown up and only knives left they did shoot to wound but as i say, thought policy was drop them if need be or don't fire (Wiki seems to be saying pointing gun is considered use, which seems fair enough - as in don't if you don't intend to fire)

If the Twitter guy was accurate then they not only pulled a gun but tried to fire it at police. It backfiring is neither here nor there as far as the police would be concerned, as they were still armed and potentially had other firearms.

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

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Another WTF image.

"yeah, just standing here chatting to the guy with the bloodied knife in his hand"

Not even got her arms out ready to defend herself in case he goes for her. That's incredibly calm

 

[Mr Moose]

Eye witness claims that injured suspect voiced a preference to only be nursed by females and not by men. What's that saying? Call me what you like but I'm not a poof?

 

[JimW]

If the Twitter guy was accurate then they not only pulled a gun but tried to fire it at police. It backfiring is neither here nor there as far as the police would be concerned, as they were still armed and potentially had other firearms.

Yep, as I say that was just first thought on hearing they were alive but shot, before further details emerged.

 

[cantsin]

That footage is just...unbelievable.

head fuck on so many levels

 

[Corax]

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Another WTF image.

"yeah, just standing here chatting to the guy with the bloodied knife in his hand"

Very London.

And that's not a biased "we're so great" thing - I've not lived in London for almost a decade now.

 

[friedaweed]

It really does have a 'Rubber dinghy rapids' feel to it this

 

[J Ed]

I don't think that it was a terrorist attack.
I think y'all are grasping at straws trying to prove it was a terrorist attack.

meh - I'm going to go cook my dinner, reread the thread and maybe pick up on some signs that y'all think this NOT a terrorist attack.

What is wrong with you?

 

[joevsimp]

even if they are "terrorists" they should be treated as the common criminals that they are, don't give them the satisfaction of special treatment

tenner says they end up in broadmoor

 

[Lord Camomile]

Not even got her arms out ready to defend herself in case he goes for her. That's incredibly calm

Exactly what I thought, amazed her hands were in her pockets!

 

[taffboy gwyrdd]

As vultures rush to exploit the Woolwich horror people may wish to remind the hatemob that EDL leader Stephen Lennon was filmed laughing about the massacre of scores of young children in Finland. Does he only find today's grimness 1/70 as funny?

Don't forget to include #EDL in giving the link. It is trending.

http://tinypic.com/player.php?v=24vnzug&s=5

 

[Dillinger4]

the woolwich horror

 

[JHE]

A small indication of the success of this gruesome murder - success, I mean, in gaining attention: the footage from Woolwich is being shown again and again on Spanish TV news. Predictably enough, most murders in London get no coverage in the Spanish news media, but in this case, what editor could resist the pictures and recordings? This will be all over the world's news media. These gentlemen's 15 mins of fame are going to be very international.

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

Exactly what I thought, amazed her hands were in her pockets!

Although by doing that, I suppose she looks less of a threat to him

 

[J Ed]

A small indication of the success of this gruesome murder - success, I mean, in gaining attention: the footage from Woolwich is being shown again and again on Spanish TV news. Predictably enough, most murders in London get no coverage in the Spanish news media, but in this case, what editor could resist the pictures and recordings? This will be all over the world's news media. These gentlemen's 15 mins of fame is going to be very international.

Main page of El País, weird.

 

[Buckaroo]

Eye witness claims that injured suspect voiced a preference to only be nursed by females and not by men. What's that saying? Call me what you like but I'm not a poof?

And if he's the one who was shot by the woman cop and he's pissed off about that, well that's blatant sexism.

 

[Dillinger4]

the echo chamber over this is a bit weird really. It is a horror, and it is strange, but it is the way it is being presented by the media that I am finding really bizarre.

 

[little_legs]

Slow news day, that's why it's all over the press. An upside for Cameron too, high horse time.

 

[Frumious B.]

Not even got her arms out ready to defend herself in case he goes for her. That's incredibly calm

She'll also be interesting to listen to at the trial. It'll be a fair trial in open court, resulting in long terms in HM prisons. No waterboarding, no military tribunal, no attempt to subvert justice by defining the killers as 'enemy combatants' or imprisoning them outside British territory. That's the only good thing to come out of this - that we'll show the US the fair way to deal with terrorists. Not that it will undo the legacy of Blair's slaughter of Iraqis, but it's a start.

 

[bi0boy]

we'll show the US the fair way to deal with terrorists.

Don't kid yourself that they'll notice.

 

[sleaterkinney]

the echo chamber over this is a bit weird really. It is a horror, and it is strange, but it is the way it is being presented by the media that I am finding really bizarre.

tbf, it is well out of the ordinary.

 

[butchersapron]

Slow news day, that's why it's all over the press. An upside for Cameron too, high horse time.

That's not why it's all over the news at all. Do you really think this would be down the order on any other day? Really?

 

[Mr.Bishie]

EDL Facebook page currently getting >2 likes/second - seen as response to this afternoon's events

 

[where to]

Slow news day, that's why it's all over the press.

Bonkers. Political motivation always amplifies significance and resonance of violence/ crime. The media respond accordingly.

This is a massive news story.

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

Slow news day, that's why it's all over the press. An upside for Cameron too, high horse time.

Running around with a bloody meat cleaver is going to attract attention by the newsmedia in most places.

 

[Dillinger4]

tbf, it is well out of the ordinary.

I am not disputing that in any way. I don't know how to put it. Something about the way it is being presented just doesn't sit right with me. I won't say any more than that though because it is based on nothing really.

 

[FridgeMagnet]

It is interesting the way that they appear to have deliberately tried to bypass the usual media channels and get their message out directly via passers-by, before the cops turned up, after which point they would have had/will not have the chance. Not in the sense of it being something inexplicable, but that it was put into practice apparently carefully.

 

[Barking_Mad]

I said earlier it had a fucked up GTA feeling to it, even more so with the dudes just stood around waiting for the police to arrive and being talked to by people in the street walking past. The old woman with the shopping basket walking past as if nothing had happened. Surreal.

 

[JHE]

Bonkers. Political motivation always amplifies significance and resonance of violence/ crime. The media respond accordingly.

This is a massive news story.

It's not just that the murder is Islamonuttery. It's the extraordinary, horrific pictures and recordings, FFS! If the world's media had nothing but a press statement from the Met, it would be getting much less coverage.