Will you vote for independence?
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DexterTCN
Troy and Abed in the morning
weepiper I don't know how it will go...honestly.
The disparity between the large media and the social media seems huge. The twisted reporting in the msm is jaw-dropping. I feel like an Iraqi in 2003.
I hate the English, I'm a separatist, I'm an anti, I'm a gambler, I'm a nationalist and aggressive . That's what I'm told I am but that's not me. I see constantly repeated lies, fire-lighting under fears and loud voices.
I'm pretty certain every mason and rangers supporter is a no vote, half of labour at least, most who aren't looking deeply into it, tories. The fearful, the tabloid readers. It's designed to bring a weight on our shoulders.
If we want this we all have to work for it.
We'll definitely get it next time but I want it now.
The disparity between the large media and the social media seems huge. The twisted reporting in the msm is jaw-dropping. I feel like an Iraqi in 2003.
I hate the English, I'm a separatist, I'm an anti, I'm a gambler, I'm a nationalist and aggressive . That's what I'm told I am but that's not me. I see constantly repeated lies, fire-lighting under fears and loud voices.
I'm pretty certain every mason and rangers supporter is a no vote, half of labour at least, most who aren't looking deeply into it, tories. The fearful, the tabloid readers. It's designed to bring a weight on our shoulders.
If we want this we all have to work for it.
We'll definitely get it next time but I want it now.
weepiper
I fix the machines that fight climate change
I've got quite a few Yes Rangers fans on my twitter and facebook. Don't give up on them.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Interesting thing from that IpsosMORI poll given the basis of a potential class vote discussed earlier in the thread (this is from certain to votes btw):
geminisnake
a complex mass of conflicting ideas
steeplejack
trapped lbw for a duck
Rangers fans optimistically will be 65:35 against, pessimistically 3:1 against. Not all nos, for sure, and turnout is questionable.
weepiper
I fix the machines that fight climate change
Interesting thing from that IpsosMORI poll given the basis of a potential class vote discussed earlier in the thread (this is from certain to votes btw):
People who are better off are more likely to swallow the Better Together line.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Not according to those figures.
weepiper
I fix the machines that fight climate change
I'm not sure you're reading it right? It says 59% certain to vote No and 33% certain to vote Yes in the least deprived areas but 51% No/41% Yes in the most deprived areas.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Yeah, i'm reading it wrong - those circles have me confused - they had me confused when i posted them tbh. The one on the left does show that currently in the most deprived areas NO is winning, but by less than in the better off areas. But maybe not for long if the dynamic on the right continues - that looks like YES has dropped nearly 20% over the last 6 months in the most deprived areas. Obv, this only counts people at the opposite ends of the scale though, not everyone on the spectrum.
weepiper
I fix the machines that fight climate change
Yeah, I'm curious about the graph on the right.
geminisnake
a complex mass of conflicting ideas
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/201...hildrens-clothes_n_5460243.html?utm_hp_ref=uk
Another reason to vote YES!
Another reason to vote YES!
equationgirl
Respect my existence or expect my resistance
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-27746619
Scottish independence: Lego dropped from Treasury 'Buzzfeed'
Scottish independence: Lego dropped from Treasury 'Buzzfeed'
purenarcotic
Conveniently Pocket Sized
weepiper
I fix the machines that fight climate change
You hate all English people?
No. That's what the media tells us we're like. Dexter's saying that's not the truth.
DexterTCN
Troy and Abed in the morning
Well....that's not to detract from my misogyny, homophobia and anti-semitism. I wouldn't say I hate the English most.You hate all English people?
It's hard having this much hate. Even frowning makes my face ache
Frankie Jack
Not a bloke..
>snip>
It's hard having this much hate. Even frowning makes my face ache
I'm having to tie my hair back tighter to lessen the frowns on ma fizzog.
equationgirl
Respect my existence or expect my resistance
So no comments on Lego making the Scottish Government stop using their lego figures as part of their campaign?
geminisnake
a complex mass of conflicting ideas
They didn't stop the Scottish Govt from using Lego, they stopped the UK Govt from doing so. I agree with Lego, they shouldn't have used the figures without permission.
DairyQueen
Well-Known Member
See that lego thing... you guys realise will have taken a small team of at least three people to write it, check it, and publish it? It might have cost the better part of two grand including all the staff costs.
The sheer incompetence and lack of self-awareness of the Treasury is pretty frightening. I always assumed they were competent. That surely the Treasury had to have people that were well educated, balanced individuals. I think we have pretty strong proof here that the organisation is up to their arse with mediocrity. This level of smarmy incompetence is totally unsustainble. That's why I will be voting yes.
The sheer incompetence and lack of self-awareness of the Treasury is pretty frightening. I always assumed they were competent. That surely the Treasury had to have people that were well educated, balanced individuals. I think we have pretty strong proof here that the organisation is up to their arse with mediocrity. This level of smarmy incompetence is totally unsustainble. That's why I will be voting yes.
Frankie Jack
Not a bloke..
Yep. The herald bolloxing up their headliner again saying it was the SNP. They did change the headline after a few comments but the url stayed the same.
Herald URL
http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/...-building-it-into-iscotland-debate.1402084024
A less biased article in the Graun where LEGO tells Westminster to get a grip.
Herald URL
http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/...-building-it-into-iscotland-debate.1402084024
A less biased article in the Graun where LEGO tells Westminster to get a grip.
DexterTCN
Troy and Abed in the morning
Ah but the headline is still deliberately misleading.
I was going to mention this before, it implies the Scottish Govt in that (and whichever way does not mention 'UK'). I'II have to use my powers of deduction to guess who brought it up. (the only person on urban I have on ignore)
Frankie Jack
Not a bloke..
No idea who you could possibly have on ignore Dexter. The couple I have would never come into this thread and are generally too busy making query threads. Usually about things like what the clicking, mechanical noise could possibly be when turning a key in a lock.. or shite like that.
danny la rouge
More like *fanny* la rouge!
If the referendum was judged on numbers of badges and car stickers, Yes would win by a thumping majority.
equationgirl
Respect my existence or expect my resistance
People have started wearing 'Yes' badges at work - which I am quite surprised about, it's a very traditional company where open expression of political opinion is not generally encouraged.
timoxensis
New Member
Kind of stupid how Scots in England can't vote, or living internationally. But an Australian or Nigerian registered to vote who doesn't give a shit nor need to can.......
weepiper
I fix the machines that fight climate change
You make your life here, you get a vote. You choose to live elsewhere, you don't. I don't give a fuck where you were born.
timoxensis
New Member
eh? Sooo...people don't emigrate for various reasons, right? A BP worker from Glasgow gets promoted and is sent to Nigeria or the US...Or a person from Aberdeen lives in England because she had more opportunitis in her career choice as a youth in the 1970s...lol....OK, the latter isn't technically emigration but still the same overall issue. They have postal votes from overseas...and it doesn't mean they hate Scotland.
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