danny la rouge
More like *fanny* la rouge!
I only ever do.
Will you vote for independence?
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8ball
Decolonise colons!
Until this thread I didn't even realise the Groat was a point of discussion as a currency unit.
You should blindside the mockers and run with it, I reckon.
Though I'm also partial to the Zingwingbing.
geminisnake
a complex mass of conflicting ideas
On top of what pogo has written afaik the SNP were/are going to hold their conference at the Aberdeen Exhibition centre, so the council think they're getting one over on the SNP by banning them. DUH!! They will just hold the conference elsewhere you muppets! Or just hold it in Aberdeen anyway.
For the record although Labour won 17 seats in the councils elections, the SNP actually got a higher percentage of the vote. This will have pissed Labour off too. They needed 22 seats for a majority.
I'm not quite sure why Labour have a need to try and vilify wee Eck, but it's gotten very tedious and pathetic now.
pogofish
Testicle Hairstyle
Except that AECC is run as a commercial concern for day to day operations, so any council "ban" would not be applied there. Just confirmed that with a former employee who is sitting right beside me.
Council ownership is only a factor at boardroom level - and for many years, Aberdeen council was very cagey about just how much of it they actually owned. They always played it right down, until the last bail-out when they were very grudgingly forced to admit that they had a majority holding!
geminisnake
a complex mass of conflicting ideas
Thing is if the SNP as a party are to be banned from council buildings how many people now won't be able to go to work? And how are the councillors meant to go to meetings?? And the twat that said all this has 2 degrees afaik! 
And how are the councillors meant to go to meetings?? And the twat that said all this has 2 degrees afaik! 
That was the one where the main objector was found to be living in the English Midlands, wasn't it?
pogofish
Testicle Hairstyle
That was the one where the main objector was found to be living in the English Midlands, wasn't it?
No - He was living and working in Aberdeen at the time but towards the end of his part in the affair he lost his job and had to move south.
And he was not the main objector anyway - more of a front guy for a number of local interests, who the council had been avoiding dealing with since at least the 1970s because they knew it would end in years of court action. His villification as "the most hated person in Aberdeen" is fairly typical of the way the whole mess has been conducted - Target anyone rather than deal with the main issues, esp how Holyrood have foisted about the worst possible and non-compliant route-option for south of the river on us despite consulting and agreeing on a different route/plan altogether.
Right, thanks.
geminisnake
a complex mass of conflicting ideas
BBC Scotlandshire
BREAKING NEWS from Nat Hunter, our Chief Political Correspondent.
Following the latest slippery news that Aiberdeen City Cooncil won't now be banning Salmond and all Scottish Ministers from Cooncil properties, Nat has extraordinary news. He has tweeted -
'Wullie Young tells me "I'm now calling on a council wide ban on all pie: apple, blueberry and especially humble."'...
BREAKING NEWS from Nat Hunter, our Chief Political Correspondent.
Following the latest slippery news that Aiberdeen City Cooncil won't now be banning Salmond and all Scottish Ministers from Cooncil properties, Nat has extraordinary news. He has tweeted -
'Wullie Young tells me "I'm now calling on a council wide ban on all pie: apple, blueberry and especially humble."'...
RBS and Lloyds may be forced to move to England.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-26455655
Maybe I'm missing something, but with regard to RBS, could not an independent England refuse? After all, it is the Royal Bank of Scotland.
(Declaration of interest: I have an account with them.)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-26455655
Maybe I'm missing something, but with regard to RBS, could not an independent England refuse? After all, it is the Royal Bank of Scotland.
(Declaration of interest: I have an account with them.)
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
What is this independent england of which you speak?
geminisnake
a complex mass of conflicting ideas
I'm fairly sure I've written this before, more than once, but possibly not on this thread, but the Royal Bank of Scotland is NOT Scottish and has NOT been for a long time. It does a very high % of it's business through London.
90% of RBS and HBoS UK employees were based in out-with Scotland so 90% of employers income tax was paid to Westminster, and not counted as Scottish or Scottish Government revenue. from business for Scotland.
Frankie Jack
Not a bloke..
You have, but repetition does not make it correct. After all, plenty of British companies do business abroad and they're still British. But this is a question of politics, not statistics.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
This doesn't mean that it's an equivalent of the bank of England though. That role was played by the bank of Scotland, an entirely different bank.
weepiper
I fix the machines that fight climate change
danny la rouge
More like *fanny* la rouge!
We have discussed this before. Most recently here: http://www.urban75.net/forums/threads/will-you-vote-for-independence.287096/page-50#post-12946550
That was from the other angle: “Scotland would be too small to accept liability for its banks”.
This is the other side: “Oh dear, Scotland would lose the asset of its banks”.
Well, you know, the first thing you notice about small countries is that there are no banks.
Corax, you’ll notice no difference wherever your bank is registered and/or headquartered.
Banking is international. My bank is Spanish, now. Not that I changed banks: my old bank was taken over by Santander. The branch is where it always was. I can still do everything I need to, despite its registered office being in Spain. It could just as easily be called The Spanish Bank for Spanish Spaniards Ole! And give away castanets and donkeys when you open an account. It makes no difference.
My next door neighbour but one is a retired Irish man. He worked most of his life in Ireland, but retired here to be near his daughter and grandchildren. His pension is paid into an Irish bank (I forget which). He gets his money just the same.
It’s not going to affect you. You will still be able to do your banking without changing your bank.
danny la rouge
More like *fanny* la rouge!
What is your point? What is the question of politics?
danny la rouge
More like *fanny* la rouge!
BoS doesn't have a role similar to BoE, btw. It's just a commercial and clearing bank. BoE is a central bank.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Not now, but it used to didn't it - that's why i said played rather than plays.
danny la rouge
More like *fanny* la rouge!
Ah, missed the tense. In a way, prior to Union, I suppose so. However it wasn't the equivalent even then of the BoE. It was established by the Scottish parliament, but it wasn't intended as a means of raising government finances. The BoE was established in order to raise war bonds. In that it is the ancestor of the modern central bank, unlike BoS.
danny la rouge
More like *fanny* la rouge!
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
You bastard.
gosub
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We have discussed this before. Most recently here: http://www.urban75.net/forums/threads/will-you-vote-for-independence.287096/page-50#post-12946550
That was from the other angle: “Scotland would be too small to accept liability for its banks”.
This is the other side: “Oh dear, Scotland would lose the asset of its banks”.
Well, you know, the first thing you notice about small countries is that there are no banks.
Corax, you’ll notice no difference wherever your bank is registered and/or headquartered.
Banking is international. My ban is Spanish, now. Not that I changed banks: my old bank was taken over by Santander. The branch is where it always was. I can still do everything I need to, despite its registered office being in Spain. It could just as easily be called The Spanish Bank for Spanish Spaniards Ole! And give away castanets and donkeys when you open an account. It makes no difference.
My next door neighbour but one is a retired Irish man. He worked most of his life in Ireland, but retired here to be near his daughter and grandchildren. His pension is paid into an Irish bank (I forget which). He gets his money just the same.
It’s not going to affect you. You will still be able to do your banking without changing your bank.
Getting into the area I said I would post on in the middle of the month, still will,, though am going to have to write to my MP and MSP for some clarifcations as well.
Yes you could still do banking, but the loans you have, (average Scot has £20,000 of personal debt) it will according to NO be in a different currency and therefore vulnerable to fluctuations. A forced shotgun currency union as wanted by Salmond, is possible, through a Sorosesque Black Wednesday event-that got us out the ERM interest rates rose 3% in a day. I would hope Yes will have blinked before the speculators arrive however.
EU regs mean the banks would have to move south of the border due to most of their business being based in London
geminisnake
a complex mass of conflicting ideas
There must be someone out there with a fuckton of debt then coz none of my immediate family have any(me, hubby, son, daughter, mother, fil)
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
It's a nonsense figure arrived at by crude division.
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