Will you vote for independence?

[butchersapron]

They don't have social class as a variable?

Of course they do, that's on the right hand side - as you know having studied YG's methodology.

 

[weepiper]

They don't have social class as a variable?

There's tables for household income and highest qualification

 

[DairyQueen]

Of course they do, that's on the right hand side - as you know having studied YG's methodology.

Whole thing's here if anyone wants to dig through it

 

[TheHoodedClaw]

25-54s are all showing a yes majority.

But over the whole population, still a solid "No"

 

[weepiper]

But over the whole population, still a solid "No"

Fucking hell, I can read you know. I don't need people pissing on my chips just because I'm looking at the areas where we're winning and thinking about how best to persuade people in those where we're not.

 

[butchersapron]

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Fair enough - i thought weepiper had linked to YG. This failure throws its polling methodology into doubt right?

 

[DairyQueen]

Fair enough - i thought weepiper had linked to YG. This failure throws its polling methodology into doubt right?

I can't really work out what weights have been applied to each group in Survations poll. I don't like YouGov, get over it.

 

[TheHoodedClaw]

Fucking hell, I can read you know. I don't need people pissing on my chips just because I'm looking at the areas where we're winning and thinking about how best to persuade people in those where we're not.

Oh, is that what you were doing. Sorry.

 

[butchersapron]

I can't really work out what weights have been applied to each group.

Throwing it's methodology into even futhrr question.At least YG do the weighting they should.

 

[DairyQueen]

Eh? That's the crux of the controversies of their polls.

 

[butchersapron]

Eh? That's the crux of the complaints against them.

That they weight for class? This is your problem with them?

 

[DairyQueen]

Fucking hell, I can read you know. I don't need people pissing on my chips just because I'm looking at the areas where we're winning and thinking about how best to persuade people in those where we're not.

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According to that table 35% of the Don't Knows are now more likely to vote yes. If that is representative, and their poll is right, that would take us more or less level.

 

[DairyQueen]

That they weight for class? This is your problem with them?

No. They have (or had) a 'passionate nat' stratum, I can post links.

I posted a video up a few pages back that talks about other stuff. Have a watch of it and tell me what you think. I more-or-less agree with that guy.

 

[butchersapron]

No. They have (or had) a 'passionate nat' stratum, I can post links.

I posted a video up a few pages back that talks about other stuff. Have a watch of it and tell me what you think. I more-or-less agree with that guy.

This was never in your posts about your problem with YGs methodology. Stop being flaky.

 

[DairyQueen]

This was never in your posts about your problem with YGs methodology. Stop being flaky.

I said I don't like their panel.

That video is quite interesting though. Kellner said over a year ago that yes could not win.

 

[danny la rouge]

I can parse but 70% of that- burns I assume.

yowdendrift, hazelraw, hairst and yirdit elude me tho

It's MacDiarmind.

Yowdendrift is blizzard. Yirdit - buried (although I can see how "dirty" would make sense). Hairst - harvest.

 

[weepiper]

Interesting difference in the importance given to this poll in the Scottish and English editions of the Daily Mail

 

[danny la rouge]

I'd like to see Farage on a knife-edge.

 

[weepiper]

For anyone doubting it's going to be a high turnout
http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.c...endence-30-000-more-sign-up-to-vote-1-3524656

 

[JTG]

Remind me, is a high turnout reckoned to favour one side over the other?

 

[ddraig]

hope it would favour yes but could also be loads of no making sure not pipped
*speculation

 

[8ball]

hope it would favour yes but could also be loads of no making sure not pipped
*speculation

I get the impression a high turnout would favour the no's, since the yesses seem more emphatic/passionate.

 

[JTG]

Otoh, hasn't the RIC identified a lot of Yes support amongst those usually less likely to vote?

 

[weepiper]

Otoh, hasn't the RIC identified a lot of Yes support amongst those usually less likely to vote?

Yes, signing up unregistered people has been a strong focus of their campaigning.

Some interesting thoughts on polling and weighting within polls etc here

http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1s6onbk

 

[danny la rouge]

Jim Murphy is afraid of eggs.




(Actually, he is using one trivial incident to try and portray all Yes supporters as thugs, and that they are coordinated in their egg-based thuggery by Yes Scotland HQ).

 

[geminisnake]

Twat!!

 

[weepiper]

'mobs' have flaming torches, pitchforks and makeshift nooses, Jim. Not eggs. HTH.

 

[danny la rouge]

Jim Murphy sees an omelette.

 

[DotCommunist]

maybe he doesn't want to become eggbound and have to buy laxative

 

[danny la rouge]

He's making a huge thing of it. The BBC are in on the act now, too.