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Scottish Secretary Alistair Carmichael has indicated he could step down from the UK Government and join Alex Salmond's "Team Scotland" to negotiate a deal on independence if there is a Yes vote in the referendum.

The senior Liberal Democrat politician said it would be "difficult" to remain in his present position if Scots vote Yes on September 18.


It comes after First Minister Alex Salmond said he wanted "all the best talents" in the country to take part in such talks.

In a television debate with Better Together leader Alistair Darling earlier this week, the First Minister stressed: "Whatever the result we are going to have to bring Scotland together.


"So as First Minister I'm pledging that if there's a Yes vote then I will accept the obligation to have that 18 months of negotiation between the referendum and independence not just involving the Scottish National Party or the wider Yes campaign but all of the best talents of Scotland as part of Scotland's negotiating team to get the best possible settlement for Scotland."


Mr Carmichael told the Scotsman if the referendum resulted in a vote for Scotland to leave the UK "it would be difficult to see how you could fit into a cabinet which was at the point on its way to becoming part of a foreign country".


When asked if he would join Scotland's negotiating team for independence talks, he said: "Yes, if I was asked to.


"I mean if Scotland votes for independence then I will still want to be part of the Scottish public political life.


"I would have to be realistic about what could be achieved, but you know I am not walking away from Scottish politics.


"If that is something that happens then yes, I would want to get the best possible deal for Scotland. That's what I do at the moment and that's what I will always do in the future for as long as I hold the job I do."


He told the paper that those negotiating an independence settlement for Scotland in the wake of a Yes vote would face a tough task.


"Unlike Alex Salmond I'm not going to try to pretend the job of that negotiating team will be straightforward or it will achieve the unachievable," Mr Carmichael said.


"If we go down the road of independence there will be an enormously difficult path. I know which side I will be on, but I would much rather not be put in that position."
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Dinnae bother ya blimp..
 
THE millionaire brother of former Labour MP Mohammed Sarwar and uncle of the party's Scottish deputy leader, Anas Sarwar, has switched his allegiance to the SNP, The Herald can reveal.

Businessman Mohammad Ramzan has come out in favour of Alex Salmond's party ahead of next week's council elections, blaming the Labour administration in Glasgow for a "lack of ideas and innovation".

The tycoon, who is chairman of United Wholesale Grocers, said he had supported Labour in the past out of family loyalty and donated £2000 to his brother's Labour General Election campaign in Glasgow Govan in 2001.

However, yesterday he revealed he had withdrawn his support for Labour – just as leader Ed Miliband is due to hit the campaign trail in Glasgow today.

Mr Miliband is also expected to attend a Muslim Friends of Labour function hosted by Anas Sarwar tonight.

Mr Ramzan said: "I am delighted to be supporting the SNP at this year's local elections on May 3. I have been a businessman in Glasgow for over 35 years and I have always wanted what is best for the city.

"Unfortunately, under the current Labour administration the city has not moved forward, there is a lack of ideas and innovation, and they now spend more time squabbling among themselves than trying to help ordinary Glaswegians.

"That is why I will be supporting real change under the SNP."

Mr Ramzan said that, aside from his donation to his brother's campaign, he had made small donations to Labour in the past, mainly to local council candidates "at the last few elections".

However, he stressed last night that he was not setting out to embarrass his brother or his nephew, who he said were aware of his growing inclination to support the SNP.

He said: "Through their small business bonus scheme, council tax freeze, abolition of university tuition fees and protection of vital services like the NHS, the SNP have shown real credibility in government.

"They will undoubtedly bring the same competence that they have shown in government to the local council, and I look forward to helping them make Glasgow flourish."

SNP deputy leader Nicola Sturgeon said last night: "This is another sign of the growing support for the SNP in Glasgow and shows that the wind of change is blowing through the city."

Glasgow SNP group leader Allison Hunter said: "I am delighted that Mr Ramzan is to support the SNP at the election next week. For a prominent businessman to endorse us in this way is hugely significant.

"As Mr Ramzan says, Glasgow has not moved forward under Labour. Glasgow needs a can-do council which will work closely with neighbouring councils and the Scottish Government to build for economic recovery – this is precisely what the SNP are offering next Thursday."

The man behind the country's biggest cash-and-carry arrived in Scotland in 1974,

starting out in business with £5 in his pocket.

Soon Mr Ramzan was selling clothes door-to-door around Glasgow and as far afield as Dunoon, travelling by bus and ferry.

By 1977 he was in the wholesale trade, and within a decade United Wholesale had achieved a multi-million-pound turnover.

But, while his brother Mohammad increasingly devoted his time to front-line politics, he concentrated on building the family business.

Mr Ramzan is now chairman of United Wholesale, while his son Nabeel Ramzam is managing director. Mr Sarwar was a Glasgow MP from 1997 to 2010, while his son, Anas Sarwar, is MP for Glasgow Central and deputy leader of the Scottish Labour Party.
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I hate the likes of Jim Murphy and Danny Alexander. They know exactly why people are livid with them. If there's a No, we will have to put up with all their "lets heal a divided nation bullshit". I, quite frankly, am glad someone like Jim Murphy gets hassle across Scotland. The man is a total bastard. And Danny Alexander is a fucking liar. For that twat to stand up and address 'comrades' is fucking lunacy. It really shows how depraved and dishonest the Labour Party have become.
 
DotCommunist said:
a cairy oot and a perty eh?


(this vernacular post was brought to you in association with Irvine Welsh)
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I' the how-dumb-deid o' the cauld hairst nicht
The warl' like an eemis stane
Wags i' the lift;
An' my eerie memories fa'
Like a yowdendrift.

Like a yowdendrift so's I couldna read
The words cut oot i' the stane
Had the fug o' fame
An' history's hazelraw
No' yirdit thaim.
 
danny's quoting Crowdieknowe by Hugh MacDiarmid. There are footnotes in his collected poems for non-syncretic Scots punters ;)

It's been a shambolic week for Bitter Together. First Darling's atrocious performance in that debate, when the best line of the night (about private health care and failed politicians like Darling and Milburn getting fat on the back of it) came not from Salmond but the lady in the audience who raised it.

Then the widespread meme-ridicule of their PPB- the way it has convinced some people not to voite No, but Yes. And today's piece of self-preserving pique by Carswell enbsures that a southern English by election will feature a Dutch auction between UKIP and the Tories, as to who can be more horrifically right wing on the issues of the day.

It's great to be back in Scotland and to play a small part at the tail end of the camapign. For two years I have been pessimisitic about the outcome of September 18th. But something is happening here, and there is a chance- a growing one- that we might just do it.

All to play for!
 
Business for Scotland upon hearing the CBI was holding a dinner on Thursday 28th with Prime Minister David Cameron and leader of the No campaign wrote to the Electoral Commission expressing our concerns that the CBI were once again campaigning.

Electoral Commission responds to Business for Scotland concerns over potentially illegal CBI campaigning

Today the head of the Scotland office of the Electoral Commission has confirmed that the CBI is not presently a Permitted Participant but is campaigning and is therefore being closely monitored for campaign spending and activity.

The Electoral Commission has questioned the CBI over plans for its annual dinner and has come to the conclusion this is campaigning. However, the CBI has claimed that the dinner is “significantly reduced both in scale and cost from previous years and from the original plan for this year, including a smaller guest list and lower catering costs”.

Its official the CBI have been deemed once again to be campaigning by The Electoral Commission, a quasi judicial public body
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http://www.businessforscotland.co.u...rm-cbi-dinner-speech-may-break-companies-law/
 
An old work colleague has just come out for Yes on facebook. A real surprise as he has been firmly in the no camp and is an active member of Scottish Labour.
 
danny la rouge said:
I'm having a wee party. Some friends will be round to drink responsibly and shout at the commentators.
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I too will be staying up. I rather suspect I will be alone, though, if I'm at home, as my mates will have to go into work the next day. Why couldn't they be sensible and have the vote on the Friday? I wonder if any of the local pubs will be open?
 
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