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Will you vote for independence?

Scottish independence?

  • Yes please

    Votes: 99 56.6%

  • No thanks

    Votes: 57 32.6%

  • Dont know yet

    Votes: 17 9.7%
  • Total voters
    175
Hold on...if we have to use a different currency does that mean rUK will have to pay more for our oil?

edit: em no, oil is traded in dollars I think, never mind
 
Indyref Daily: Patronising Better Together Lady's husband Paul speaks out

In the interests of balance, Indyref Daily has given Patronising Better Together Lady's long-suffering husband Paul a right of reply to his wife:


I love my wife, I do. She's a great mum and a wonderful partner. But she's very... set in her ways.


She insists on staying at home, cleaning, cooking -- even though I've proposed a non-gender normative relationship with National Collective poetry slams every other Tuesday. Nothing.


Last week, I said, "Why don't we give something other than grilled polenta and sauted quinoa a try for dinner?"


"But Paul," she says to me. "You know where you are with quinoa. Maybe Roquefort-stuffed grilled peppers on a bed of Puy lentils would be a nice change but it's all too risky. What happens when the arugula runs out?"


Then I said, "But rocket's just a bonus. There's loads more garnishes out there. There's parsley and chives and chicory."


And you know what she said to me? She says, "You've been listening to that man on the telly too much."


This again.


"Gordon Ramsay," I said. "His name is Gordon Ramsay."


She took another sip of her coffee and started to clear away the cereal bowls.


"I don't know, Paul. What about the children? I've got to think about their future. And you know how hard it was for me to get my pretty head around that big scary Ocado website. How will I work out how to change our weekly order? No, no. It's too much hassle. Let's just keep things as they are."


She's so closed-minded. Can't she just take time to think things through before making a decision?


Take last week. I suggested we go to Pat Kane's public lecture on Julia Kristeva and post-structuralism in the writing of Tam Cowan. She wanted to watch EastEnders.


She keeps accusing me of wanting a "separation", or even a "divorce". But I just want us to make our own decisions. Without being patronised.
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weepiper said:
Lots of people are more worried by the idea of UKIP getting a foothold than they are by the Tories
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I'd understand more if it had happened in Scotland, since there would be more of a local influence. I would have thought most people were quite aware of the political closeness of UKIP and the Tories generally.
 
Meanwhile, David Cameron is coming to Glasgow for a jolly to convince business leaders of the importance of the Union today. The CBI was going to spend more than £10k on this one dinner alone in a city which has 46 foodbanks and where a third of all children are living in poverty , but it would have fallen foul of electoral spedning rules so they're having to 'cut back'.

August 28, 2014 12:30 am

CBI diners face cut-price menu at Scottish event
By George Parker

Business leaders attending Thursday night’s CBI dinner in Scotland – to be addressed by David Cameron – are facing a cut-price menu to avoid falling foul of electoral spending rules covering the independence referendum, writes George Parker.

The CBI was told that since it was providing a platform for Mr Cameron to make the case against independence – and not offering a similar platform to the Yes side – it was not allowed to spend more than £10,000 on the annual event.

That meant that the dinner in Glasgow had to be scaled back, with a reduced menu and the scrapping of the usual fripperies, including flowers. “It will be a more modest affair,” said one CBI insider.

The number of guests was also capped at 230 to avoid topping the spending limit and breaching Electoral Commission rules. The CBI has spoken out against the risks of Scottish independence but is not registered as a campaigner in the referendum.

“We are of the view that the CBI’s dinner does constitute campaigning and as a result we have sought detailed assurances from them and their suppliers about the cost of this event,” the Electoral Commission said.

“As a result of the information we’ve received, we’re content that the CBI will not be spending more than the £10,000 limit that would require them to formally register as a campaigner at the referendum.”
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weepiper said:
Meanwhile, David Cameron is coming to Glasgow for a jolly to convince business leaders of the importance of the Union today. The CBI was going to spend more than £10k on this one dinner alone in a city which has 46 foodbanks and where a third of all children are living in poverty , but it would have fallen foul of electoral spedning rules so they're having to 'cut back'.
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I guess which way this pushes things will depend on whether those who notice this shindig are revolted enough to change their minds, and whether this is more than counterbalanced by the clout the CBI has if Cameron's visit makes much difference to them.
 
DotCommunist said:
remember the CBI hilariously went for the No team then had to eat its hat and go back to nuetral because they hadn't bothered to consult the membership
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With all the bodies that have quit the CBI in Scotland, getting the remainder back onside might be a little easier.
 
8ball said:
I'd understand more if it had happened in Scotland, since there would be more of a local influence. I would have thought most people were quite aware of the political closeness of UKIP and the Tories generally.
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There is also the effect of several weeks of the press now arguing over who can be the most right-wing, Tories or UKIP. That's a 3-week-long advert for Yes. And I think the Tories may now give up on the indyref as a busted flush. Can they be bothered fighting a war on two fronts at once?
 
weepiper said:
There is also the effect of several weeks of the press now arguing over who can be the most right-wing, Tories or UKIP.
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The Scottish press specifically, you mean? I thought it was just accepted that the Tories and UKIP will just try to take things as far to the right as politically possible. Would this defection change anyone's opinion?
 
weepiper said:
There is also the effect of several weeks of the press now arguing over who can be the most right-wing, Tories or UKIP.
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Not really - UKIP are trying to capture Labour voters, remember? No, there'll be a lot of argument over Europe, and I don't know what effect that will have on the independence debate.
 
Quartz said:
Not really - UKIP are trying to capture Labour voters, remember? No, there'll be a lot of argument over Europe, and I don't know what effect that will have on the independence debate.
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are you sure now that ukip are not trying to capture tory voters?
 
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