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Personally, I'd ban the submission of anything from the Graun's lifestyle section from this thread as too below the belt. I'm as middle-class petite bourgeoise as they come (or at least I am for a northener) but the sheer po-faced self-indulgence and tin-earedness and other overly-hyphenated adjectives of the lifestyle section makes me throw up a little every time.
Rhik Samadder's columns are usually good, otherwise +1
 
I thought I got it from this thread but in retrospect it was from elsewhere. Interview a feminist academic but obviously as soon as she says anything non-Guardian-PC, it's "crikey" and she's been "drinking the Kool-Aid that is Judith Butler, high priestess of gender theory", make your excuses and leave, and apparently you can only deal with the "pedagogic brain ache" via "a very large bar of chocolate".

The question about her students feels a bit like a classic "so, would you like to slag [x group] off now?" invitation as well.
 
I thought I got it from this thread but in retrospect it was from elsewhere. Interview a feminist academic but obviously as soon as she says anything non-Guardian-PC, it's "crikey" and she's been "drinking the Kool-Aid that is Judith Butler, high priestess of gender theory", make your excuses and leave, and apparently you can only deal with the "pedagogic brain ache" via "a very large bar of chocolate".


I think the worst bit about that isn't so much that stupid tone, it's more the way a statement about some trans-exclusive lesbians is apparently a statement about all lesbians. Pretty snidey tbh.
 
I think the worst bit about that isn't so much that stupid tone, it's more the way a statement about some trans-exclusive lesbians is apparently a statement about all lesbians. Pretty snidey tbh.
It's actually quite a transparent lie isn't it, and hopefully most people can see it. She was not generalising about all lesbians. I just had a look at her twitter feed to see if she responded but it seems she decided to rise above it and just didn't tweet out the article as she does with other major articles she's featured in.

I would say her suggestion about why some cis lesbians become terfs is quite speculative (unless she's using research she's not citing) and many interviewers might choose to challenge it on those grounds. But just lying about what she said in the next paragraph is quite amazing.
 
It's actually quite a transparent lie isn't it, and hopefully most people can see it. She was not generalising about all lesbians. I just had a look at her twitter feed to see if she responded but it seems she decided to rise above it and just didn't tweet out the article as she does with other major articles she's featured in.

I would say her suggestion about why some cis lesbians become terfs is quite speculative (unless she's using research she's not citing) and many interviewers might choose to challenge it on those grounds. But just lying about what she said in the next paragraph is quite amazing.
Yeah, it’s the fact of the direct quote which so obviously didn’t say what she says a mere sentence later. Does she think we’re fucking thick?
 
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lazythursday said:


When I worked at the Guardian (non journo role) way back in the 90s it was really common to find that the graduate trainees or various junior staff were related to some long standing Guardian writer. I doubt much has changed. Journalism is rife with nepotism. I don't think it's a good look for the editor to employ her boyfriend but I don't think it's as bad as the way a small section of upper middle class people have a stranglehold on much of journalism. At least Chiles has some existing experience/celebrity/notoriety and is not from north London. "


it is worth noting though that the Guardian Media Group (owners of the paper) have commented on the behaviour of their editor in the last two annual reports - possibly because tshe clearly has conflict of interest and is abusing her position on the worthless (imo) writer man-Chiles.
Why not spend that money on investigative journalism that may uphold the fine principles the Guardian is meant to support?

Also, just because he's a 'name' is no guarantee that he has anything worth saying - he's a football reporter and magazine show host, not Hunter S Thompson...

PS My wife worked at the Observer (non journo role) in the 70's which only goes to show - well, nothing really...
 
Personally, I'd ban the submission of anything from the Graun's lifestyle section from this thread as too below the belt. I'm as middle-class petite bourgeoise as they come (or at least I am for a northener) but the sheer po-faced self-indulgence and tin-earedness and other overly-hyphenated adjectives of the lifestyle section makes me throw up a little every time. The news is frequently well put together (although I'll concede Edie's point about a lot of overly emotive folderol being crowbarred in) but much of their other output is risible.

And no, I've no idea why anyone would expect self-catering accommodation to include a full cruet set and spice rack.

For what it's worth, those of you using ublock can use a simple filter like so to omit the lifestyle section from the front page entirely.
Code:
www.theguardian.com###lifestyle
Agree it is a bit of an open goal.
 
I hate everyone interviewed in this piece.

Quite a few of them weren’t actually as bad as I was expecting. E.g.

My son has a job in IT and earns good money, so he does not need mine and there are much more important uses for it. If I do leave him anything, it will be a token gift only and I’ve got a good pension which should cover my care needs.

Our culture has come to value owning property, stuff, above all living beings. If the failure of our government to address decarbonisation and ecological destruction continues over the next 10 years, I will give all my money to whichever organisations are doing the best job of persuading the government to act to build a new economic system based on a circular economy that respects all living beings.
I mean, I can criticise the bourgeois assumptions inherent in that statement but I don’t hate the person.
 
Quite a few of them weren’t actually as bad as I was expecting. E.g.


I mean, I can criticise the bourgeois assumptions inherent in that statement but I don’t hate the person.
None of them seem unusually awful people; they want to pass things on to their children. That's pretty standard. It's the fact that they're unusually rich and can pass on a lot more than average which is the problem. Their kids could be my next landlord.
 
None of them seem unusually awful people; they want to pass things on to their children. That's pretty standard. It's the fact that they're unusually rich and can pass on a lot more than average which is the problem. Their kids could be my next landlord.
My point is that a lot/some of them don’t want to pass on anything to their children
 
Help me, Urbanites. Which one do you think I should go for? Recycled Anya Hindmarsh £125, Lowe £175, Paul Smith £125, Merlot £90, Aspers £70 or the budget option at £34?

These are wallets aren't they? I don't think it's a massive surprise that they come in a range of prices.
 
Sure there is - everyone else has google and can find cheaper, uglier versions of more or less everything in the world too, if they want to.
So an average price of over £100 for a card holder represents what? Good value? The typical reader?
 
So an average price of over £100 for a card holder represents what? Good value? The typical reader?
I'm not sure what a wallet should cost tbh. If it was made of high quality materials by skilled craftspeople on decent wages, probably a lot more than £10. TBF looking at the things they've listed there, many of them probably aren't - but regardless, value for money does not = cheap, and plenty of people prioritise spending more money on high quality items that look nice and will last over cheap items that don look nice, and will probably fall apart next year.
 
Fair point, although the people making the expensive wallets are likely paid as little as those making cheap ones.
 
It's just the usual kind of content you've been getting in fashion supplements of newspapers for years isn't it?
 
A friend of mine makes cardholders out of used tetrapak (eg juice cartons). There are simple guides on how to do this available for free online.
 
All the people who are putting out determined comments about Ronaldo not being a good buy for Man Utd are ALL non-Man Utd supporters. All the Man Utd supporters are loving the purchase. Does anyone see a pattern here?
 
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