Why the Guardian is going down the pan!

[BillRiver]

Oh, the name had escaped me but I know the face.
I liked her.

Yes she was pretty darn fabulous. A great loss.

 

[8ball]

Yes she was pretty darn fabulous. A great loss.

Only 33 as well.

 

[scifisam]

I know which thread this is and what it's about, but still: am amazed how many posts about them using "Nice" instead of "NICE" with almost none about what the article and headline is actually about!

I mean, I know Nice/NICE and the NHS is institutionally racist, as is medicine/healthcare overall, but I still find it shocking, the content of this article. Shocking and enraging, and worthy of a post.

I hope there's more to it, but it seems, from the other categories included, to be a blanket recommendation based on higher maternal deaths without taking into account the reasons for them. Recommending advising early induction - and it is only advising, at least - makes more sense for the other categories (over age 35 and with a high BMI) - because there are actual medical reasons for that. It would still be dubious to suggest early induction without any other medical reasons, but at least it's because those circumstances have do sometimes actually cause complications during childbirth.

For people who are from all the huge number of non-white categories included there wouldn't be any actual medical reason. just societal. That's very different.

Blind reliance on statistics does not make for good medical guidance.

(Tries to defy urge to point out the alternative meaning of ‘nice’ isn’t a noun. Fails)

Still can't help myself - if it's NICE, the organisation, then it is a noun.

 

[Larry O'Hara]

This is the article Dawn Foster wrote, that led Tom Watson to have her sacked by them. Wouldn't it be awkward if it reached the top of their "most read" and/or more "most shared" charts:

If Tom Watson had guts, he would quit Labour. Instead he is weakening the party | Dawn Foster

fantastic article: you can see why the Guardian scum canned her...

 

[strung out]

One of the best Dawn Foster tributes

 

[killer b]

This is the article Dawn Foster wrote, that led Tom Watson to have her sacked by them.

I've seen this claim a lot on twitter in the last 24 hours - does it have any evidence to back it up, or is it just the timing of her sacking being relatively close to this article being written (some two months after it was published)?

 

[lazythursday]

I've seen this claim a lot on twitter in the last 24 hours - does it have any evidence to back it up, or is it just the timing of her sacking being relatively close to this article being written (some two months after it was published)?

It was the last article by her they published, and I assume she must have stated this herself given the widespread claim. She discusses The Guardian in this podcast - (not listened to it yet)

 

[killer b]

It was the last article by her they published

ah yes, I missed that. fair cop.

 

[killer b]

It was the last article by her they published, and I assume she must have stated this herself given the widespread claim. She discusses The Guardian in this podcast - (not listened to it yet)

she tackles the Tom Watson article about 35 minutes in. sounds like a bleak place to work tbf

 

[lazythursday]

she tackles the Tom Watson article about 35 minutes in. sounds like a bleak place to work tbf

I don't think I've dared mention it on here before - but I worked there as a naive twentysomething in a support role back in the mid 90s. I enjoyed my job and on the whole it was a decent employer. But the experience taught me an awful lot about class.

 

[hitmouse]

Just catching up with this, RIP to one of the only decent writers in the British media. Nice Jaroslav Hasek reference in there too.

 

[BillRiver]

The bridge from Millfields Park to Leyton Marshes, over the river Lea, yesterday evening:

 

[Brainaddict]

What a stinker of a piece Labour must say it out loud: Brexit needs to be reversed

It's possible to make an argument to rejoin the EU, but it is not possible for this man to make an argument to rejoin the EU that anyone but guardian/observer towers would listen to.

 

[Dogsauce]

It’ll be rejoining the single market / EEA first anyway. Nobody with any political sense will be screaming to go back in feet first.

 

[Pickman's model]

What a stinker of a piece Labour must say it out loud: Brexit needs to be reversed

It's possible to make an argument to rejoin the EU, but it is not possible for this man to make an argument to rejoin the EU that anyone but guardian/observer towers would listen to.

The thing about brexit is it can't be reversed. We will never have again the deal we had on 22 June 2016. If we rejoin the EU we will never regain the rebate. We will have to forfeit the pound. The influence we formerly enjoyed in Brussels will no longer exist. Our reaccession will not be the return of the prodigal son but the scuttling in of a much chastened child forced to return to the parental home

 

[xenon]

I’m not gonna even click on that. Blatant click bait delusional nonsense.

 

[belboid]

Diving outfits have changed a tad since I last watched

 

[hitmouse]

Nice Dawn Foster obit/tribute here:

We Will Never Forget Dawn Foster

Jacobin writer Dawn Foster passed away last week at the age of 34. Dawn is irreplaceable, but we can seek to emulate her extraordinary combination of compassion and political commitment.

jacobinmag.com

 

[Pickman's model]

Video shows salmon injured by unlivable water temperatures after heatwave

A conservation group recorded the video after a heatwave in the Pacific north-west on a day when water temperatures breached 70F

www.theguardian.com

it's this sort of thing i really object to, the last sentence in my snip. which sounds like some liberal wankstain is preaching to you (which of course they are). in any real newspaper they would have left off the 'and given that', taken out the comma and replaced it with so.

e2a: and the middle sentence in the paragraph isn't all that either

 

[killer b]

The Headline:



what he actually says:

 

[agricola]

You find sly digs in the strangest places nowadays:

Once published, the memos showed the prince to be a formidable lobbyist, badgering ministers privately on pet causes – from alternative medicines to the replacement of Lynx helicopters and the alleged mistreatment of farmers by supermarkets.

 

[butchersapron]

Blin date with a Holocaust questioner .

 

[two sheds]

Good to see you post again - but doesn't mention holocaust in the piece?

 

[Shechemite]

Who’s Eddie?

 

[DaveCinzano]

Who’s Eddie?

Bruce Dickinson's alter ego (not to be confused with Bruce Wayne's)

 

[Elpenor]

Those Guardian blind dates tend to have some right cards in.

 

[DaveCinzano]

Those Guardian blind dates tend to have some right cards in.

Typically from apocryphal suits, like the King of Arseholes

 

[rekil]

Blin date with a Holocaust questioner .

What level of loonery is he on.

 

[butchersapron]

What level of loonery is he on.

Full on 100%. He was behind Beeley's first bristol event.

 

[Serene]

Many Telegraph readers have become radicalised with Tory Propaganda.