why the bbc is going down the pan

[rekil]

Wtf! That was on the BBC?

Yes. But it appears to have vanished. Very smelly.

The Last Aryans of Ladakh | Hacker News

 

[mauvais]

This is pretty embarrassing:

BBC NI 'not corporately involved in Pride'

 

[Poi E]

But fair commentary by the BBC on its own. Just omits the orange strongarm.

 

[Dogsauce]

Duh. Time to sack the person who orders the stock photos.

 

[mauvais]

What's wrong with it? Is this some rail nerd thing?

 

[butchersapron]

It's snow i believe.

 

[mauvais]

That photo's floodwater, so I don't get it.

 

[Dogsauce]

Conductor rails, thickos.

 

[andysays]

Conductor rails, thickos.

So it is a rail nerd thing then

 

[mauvais]

Is the idea that there are no third rail systems in Yorkshire? Or just not this particular configuration?

 

[Dogsauce]

Is the idea that there are no third rail systems in Yorkshire? Or just not this particular configuration?

Bingo. That’s not Yorkshire.

 

[mauvais]

I bet you that someone's already complained. Nonetheless I don't think the picture editor need worry about being handed their P45 too much.

 

[Proper Tidy]

Normal piece to have high on BBC News app during election period

 

[Steel Icarus]

Fucking hell
The Mail will be devastated they didn't think of it first

 

[SpookyFrank]

How well does it spend money? How about, how much real terms funding has it lost in the last decade?

The article itself doesn't mention funding cuts, but does blame the public for not ringing 111 instead of going to the doctor, for not getting flu jabs etc etc.

 

[DaveCinzano]

Five hours ago:



Just now:

 

[elbows]

I remember the moment when it seemed like a whole bubble agreed with Nick.

Spare me the Brief Bubble Communicators.

 

[butchersapron]

It's all just a big joke to them apparently:

 

[teqniq]

Interesting letter:

John Sweeney's letter to OfCom

 

[SE25]

They have really fucked this election for themselves. Everywhere I look there's normal people who defended the Beeb before who are calling out its bias and many who are cancelling their license fee. That's what you get when you stuff the place full of tories I guess.

 

[mauvais]

Interesting letter:

John Sweeney's letter to OfCom

Too much stuff in there for Ofcom to deal with coherently, I suspect.

 

[Azrael]

They have really fucked this election for themselves. Everywhere I look there's normal people who defended the Beeb before who are calling out its bias and many who are cancelling their license fee. That's what you get when you stuff the place full of tories I guess.

The full extent of the Savile revelations burned any lingering affection I had for the Beeb, but its coverage of this hell-spawned election feels like a watershed. When the day comes that privatisation is seriously mooted, I don't see Auntie having many defenders. I certainly won't waste a moment of my time going to bat for Lord Reith's decrepit legacy.

It's a relic of another age. Let it die. If they wanna leave BBC Four as some PBS-esque rump, fine. As for the rest, generally I'm no fan of privatisation, but being tossed onto the icy mercies of the market seems a fitting punishment for those who've betrayed their public service remit so utterly. Let advertisers fund the news output, make the drama a subscription service -- not hard, they've already set up that BritBox venture with ITV -- and let's see what Channel 4 get up to with Strictly ...

 

[mauvais]

As for the rest, generally I'm no fan of privatisation, but being tossed onto the icy mercies of the market seems a fitting punishment for those who've betrayed their public service remit so utterly.

20,000 jobs you've casually labelled traitors there. Most of them aren't anything to do with news.

 

[mauvais]

Here's something I found today to balance that out though:

 

[DJWrongspeed]

The full extent of the Savile revelations burned any lingering affection I had for the Beeb, but its coverage of this hell-spawned election feels like a watershed. When the day comes that privatisation is seriously mooted, I don't see Auntie having many defenders. I certainly won't waste a moment of my time going to bat for Lord Reith's decrepit legacy.

It's a relic of another age. Let it die. If they wanna leave BBC Four as some PBS-esque rump, fine. As for the rest, generally I'm no fan of privatisation, but being tossed onto the icy mercies of the market seems a fitting punishment for those who've betrayed their public service remit so utterly. Let advertisers fund the news output, make the drama a subscription service -- not hard, they've already set up that BritBox venture with ITV -- and let's see what Channel 4 get up to with Strictly ...

The BBC isn't just about news though. In this digital age I'm sure it's finding things difficult. If you abolished the BBC would it's replacements be any better as commercial operations? For me that's that's the most important question ? The BBC so many different things that make public service broadcasting, they have played a huge role cultivating new music, running orchestras etc and that's just from a music perspective. Go round the world and the BBC is one of the most trusted sources still. The alternative is far worse.

The whole Savile thing is yesterdays news, would other media establishments have acted differently?

 

[Azrael]

20,000 jobs you've casually labelled traitors there. Most of them aren't anything to do with news.

To clarify, my ire was directed the bosses doing Whitehall's bidding and the "talent" raking in salaries they have no, ahem, guarantee of retaining on the open market. I of course direct no blame whatsoever at regular staff, and would never support any change that'd cost jobs.

 

[Azrael]

The BBC isn't just about news though. In this digital age I'm sure it's finding things difficult. If you abolished the BBC would it's replacements be any better as commercial operations? For me that's that's the most important question ? The BBC so many different things that make public service broadcasting, they have played a huge role cultivating new music, running orchestras etc and that's just from a music perspective. Go round the world and the BBC is one of the most trusted sources still. The alternative is far worse.

The whole Savile thing is yesterdays news, would other media establishments have acted differently?

Maybe not -- although a monolith like the BBC provided particularly robust cover for his depravities -- but commercial broadcasters are not extracting a de facto poll tax off the public.

I did suggest a PBS-esque rump organization for arts coverage and the like.

Is the alternative really worse? Even Sky News has been noticeably less biased, and the most robust challenges have come from Channel 4, which may be a public service broadcaster, but of course takes commercial funding. And of course, many of the BBC's programmes already come from commercial production companies (illustrated bluntly by the Bake Off fiasco).

The BBC's trading on a myth that, if it were ever true in part, has long since slid below the horizon. Reality's a bloated quango. Perhaps some of it can be spun off into a much leaner public service broadcaster focused on the arts, funded from general taxation. The current behemoth is another matter.

 

[mauvais]

Maybe not -- although a monolith like the BBC provided particularly robust cover for his depravities -- but commercial broadcasters are not extracting a de facto poll tax off the public.

I did suggest a PBS-esque rump organization for arts coverage and the like.

Is the alternative really worse? Even Sky News has been noticeably less biased, and the most robust challenges have come from Channel 4, which may be a public service broadcaster, but of course takes commercial funding. And of course, many of the BBC's programmes already come from commercial production companies (illustrated bluntly by the Bake Off fiasco).

The BBC's trading on a myth that, if it were ever true in part, has long since slid below the horizon. Reality's a bloated quango. Perhaps some of it can be spun off into a much leaner public service broadcaster focused on the arts, funded from general taxation. The current behemoth is another matter.

There's a thread on the first half of this: Dumping the BBC?

The alternative is probably worse, yes. Netflix is currently riding high and it makes alternative models look not just easy but attractive - except it's built on a mountain of debt and isn't sustainable as-is. Similar with music services. iPlayer led the way in terms of TV content delivery over the internet. The BBC props up UK radio as a whole. There's loads of this stuff, but it's much less visible than news fuckups.

 

[magneze]

Pity the news and current affairs lets everyone down. But they do.

 

[Azrael]

There's a thread on the first half of this: Dumping the BBC?

The alternative is probably worse, yes. Netflix is currently riding high and it makes alternative models look not just easy but attractive - except it's built on a mountain of debt and isn't sustainable as-is. Similar with music services. iPlayer led the way in terms of TV content delivery over the internet. The BBC props up UK radio as a whole. There's loads of this stuff, but it's much less visible than news fuckups.

Thanks for the link.

I'd have no problem with publicly funded radio continuing. Netflix is, I agree, far from a certain prospect. For quality drama, I'd envisage something along the lines of HBO, which has decades of durability behind it.