Why Labour are Scum

[treelover]

http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/2013/06/how-labour-can-offer-something-something-welfare

Demos are behind a lot of these ideas as is the IPPR, how these orgs can be called 'left of centre' is beyond me.

 

[articul8]

http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/2013/06/how-labour-can-offer-something-something-welfare

Demos are behind a lot of these ideas as is the IPPR, how these orgs can be called 'left of centre' is beyond me.

A two-tier system for benefit claimants - we could call them the "deserving" and "undeserving poor" - good job there are such innovative thinkers around.

 

[ViolentPanda]

class war ,trouble In the party, parachuted MP Luciana Berger(very posh) accused of bullying local lad.

He has absolutely no obligation to lliase with Berger's constituency office. MPs like councillors for wards in their constituency to do so, because it allows both parties to present a "united front", but it also facilitates the sort of "micro-management" of ward-level issues that can be detrimental to the electorate of the ward.
I'm not a fan of Berger. Some of her bullshit against the NUS (not a union I usually have any time for) was very obviously purely careerist (she accused the NUS NEC of being anti-Semitic), as was her stirring w/r/t SOAS. She's someone who'll stick a knife in anyone to get ahead, this councillor included.

 

[articul8]

She used to be in my CLP - in the poshest most m/c part of the constituency obviously. She is a total zionist shitbag. What the fuck does she know about the lives of working class communities in Liverpool? She didn't even know who Bill Shankly was when she got selected FFS.

 

[Gramsci]

Just a little reminder of 'the people's party's' finest hour...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/may/22/uk-support-cia-rendition-flights



The project's own website here.

Just for info:-

Jack Straw was and is awful. Never took rendition seriously.

 

[19sixtysix]

Jack Straw was and is awful. Never took rendition seriously.

He's been quoted on that BBC trailer as blaming the french for the iraq war

(i really don't think my blood pressure could watch the actual programme)

 

[articul8]

She's someone who'll stick a knife in anyone to get ahead, this councillor included.

He's just tweeted saying he's been suspended from the party

 

[ItWillNeverWork]

Whatever next?

Lab-UKIP coalition.

 

[ItWillNeverWork]

He's just tweeted saying he's been suspended from the party

What are the details of what happened? What were the reasons for suspension?

 

[19sixtysix]

He's just tweeted saying he's been suspended from the party

He can win her seat as an independent at the next election.

 

[butchersapron]

He's just tweeted saying he's been suspended from the party

Good, might be the making of the lad.

 

[treelover]

Its a real shift to the right, ex minister Kitty Ussher was just on Newsnight trumpeting the cap, no discussion of what it would mean for millions of people, it was debated basically as political strategy to beat the Comdems.

I've come to the conclusion, Millipede is a weak leader

 

[Favelado]

The assault on housing benefit is good if they genuinely can get stuck into private rent levels and build large amounts of housing. I don't like the contributory benefits idea, as it favours the rich and the South. The benefits cap is the worst part of all.

 

[Pickman's model]

Its a real shift to the right, ex minister Kitty Ussher was just on Newsnight trumpeting the cap, no discussion of what it would mean for millions of people, it was debated basically as political strategy to beat the Comdems.

I've come to the conclusion, Millipede is a weak leader

he's a fucking weak follower too

 

[agricola]

The assault on housing benefit is good if they genuinely can get stuck into private rent levels and build large amounts of housing. I don't like the contributory benefits idea, as it favours the rich and the South. The benefits cap is the worst part of all.

Well, they wont be doing that.

 

[treelover]

The assault on housing benefit is good if they genuinely can get stuck into private rent levels and build large amounts of housing

yes, but surely even if more social housing is built, PRS rents may come down, but people will still need HB?

 

[treelover]

Well, they wont be doing that.

won't be doing what?

 

[Pickman's model]

won't be doing what?

that

 

[agricola]

won't be doing what?

You know, getting stuck into private rent levels, building large amounts of housing, that sort of thing.

 

[Pickman's model]

won't be doing what?

some people think you're lletsa but if you are you're a weak and feeble effete and ineffectual shadow of your former self. you've been posting drivel for some time now and i think it's time someone told you so.

 

[Favelado]

yes, but surely even if more social housing is built, PRS rents may come down, but people will still need HB?

Oh come on. This is easy.

 

[Frances Lengel]

He's not LLETSA.

 

[Pickman's model]

He's not LLETSA.

yeh that's what i thought. lletsa came out with some witty one-liners from time to time.

 

[treelover]

Oh come on. This is easy.

no, explain?

fuck off pickmans, you are a really nasty piece of work, take your faux radicalism elsewhere.

 

[Favelado]

no, explain?

fuck off pickmans, you are a really nasty piece of work, take your faux radicalism elsewhere.

More supply, same amount of demand, price falls.

 

[treelover]

Of course, what I meant was there still would be HB to pay for many of these S/H's, Bl are saying they will cap benefits, that means if it runs out, no more HB

 

[Favelado]

Bloody hell.

 

[treelover]

fuck me, is this meant to be a place for discussion, debate, questions, I don't know what you mean, P/P is dying because of all this superiority shit, just explain.

 

[treelover]

 

[Idris2002]

he's a fucking weak follower too

The little boy who broke his father's heart.