Why Labour are Scum

[Wilf]

I quite like that he names names - revenge is always good - but if he's still in the party he draws the wrong conclusions from that incident.

 

[Wilf]

I was even pressured into voting for Bex for NEC in order to get support from NOLS in my candidacy for LGBT Officer. Although saying that, it was pulled because I dared to vote against the ‘whip’ and not the way I was ‘supposed to’.

Not entirely a towering man of principle himself.

 

[redsquirrel]

Ha Ha

The latest Ipsos Mori political monitor, released Thursday, has the Liberal Democrats on 6%. The party’s lowest score in 25 years. As context, in 1990, West Germany won the World Cup, and Roxette’s “It Must Have Been Love” topped the charts.

What makes the figures even more extraordinary is that the Lib Dems are now tied with the SNP, which of course only runs in Scotland.

EDIT Wrong bloody thread

 

[elbows]

There is no right thread for a quote that reminds me of the musical output of Roxette!

 

[J Ed]

[...] I sincerely hope that it raises some key questions about Labour Students, Young Labour and the classist and elitist attitudes of its senior members.

As disgusting as it is unsurprising to me

 

[J Ed]

https://johnnyvoid.wordpress.com/2015/02/12/rachel-reeves-is-a-lying-bastard/

Labour’s Shadow Work and Pensions Secretary Rachel Reeves has probably never done a real day’s work in her pampered fucking life. After graduating from Oxford and then the LSE she was handed a non-job at the British Embassy in Washington before returning to the UK to work in the banking sector. She is every bit as clueless and out of touch as the chinless toffs in government she claims to oppose.

This week Reeves and her creepy underling Shadow Employment Minister Stephen Timms have been boasting about Labour’s plans to bully and impoverish unemployed people with their Compulsory Jobs Guarantee. And just like Iain Duncan Smith she is quite happy to bend the truth to further her benefit sanctioning agenda.

According to Reeves, long term unemployment has soared recently with “a staggering 224% increase in the number of people (25 and over) who have been unemployed for over two years and claiming benefits.”

If this were true then readers of this blog would have heard all about it. But it’s not, it’s a lie and Reeves knows it. All government’s cook the books when it comes to unemployment and the last Labour administration were no exception. Back then and just like now those on workfare were considered employed for the purposes of the unemployment figures. According to the Office For National Statistics there were more people recorded on “government training & employment programmes”, otherwise known as workfare, in April 2010 than in January 2015.

Since when someone started workfare they were no longer classed as unemployed, then Labour decided they were no longer long-term unemployed. That’s why Reeves can make the ludicrous claim there were only 41,100 people who had been out of work for two years in 2010. What she means is there were only 41,100 people who were lucky enough not to have been sent on one of Labour’s shit training or workfare schemes for two years.

In an effort to make Labour look bad when Iain Duncan Smith took over he decided that in future people who have attended workfare should still be considered long-term unemployed, even if they are temporarily removed from the current unemployment figures. This is the reason long term unemployment looks to have risen so steeply. That this actually ended up making Iain Duncan Smith look bad just shows what a dick he is.

This is not the only lie that Reeves has been parroting this week. Labour will not force anyone’s who’s been out of work over two years to take up a job as the Daily Mail declared this week. They can’t. There aren’t enough jobs. What they will do is force claimants to attend their workfare plus a sandwich scheme for six months or face benefit sanctions. What this will mean is people required to work for 25 hours a week on the minimum wage plus another ten hours for free. Which of course means they won’t be working for the minimum wage, but substantially less.

Reeves claims that this extra ten hours a week won’t be work at all, it will be ‘training and development’ provided by the employer. An employer like Poundland. She must think we’re fucking idiots. She also declares that this will not have an impact on existing jobs, or at least that’s what she might mean when she says “Employers won’t be not be able to replace existing jobs or vacancies”. For all her elite education she can barely string a sentence together.

Labour’s Jobs Guarantee is workfare. It may be slightly different to Tory workfare, but the impact on jobs and working conditions for everybody will be the same. As will the impact of benefit sanctions for those who refuse or are unable to do this forced work. Perhaps most disturbingly it is a direct attack on the minimum wage, with participants only to be paid for two thirds of the hours they are actually working. And it will be the tax payer funding those paltry wages, not employers who will no doubt be dump people back on the dole once the six month wage subsidy is over, as recently happened on the now abandoned Wage Incentive scheme introduced by Nick Clegg.

Make no mistake the current Tory Government are vermin. But just like Iain Duncan Smith, Rachel Reeves is a lying bastard. A lying bastard who is currently trying to cosy up to claimants by pretending Labour will tinker with the savage sickness benefits regime whilst her leader Ed Miliband hints that they might save the Independent Living Fund. They have no fucking intention of doing either and they have no intention of ending workfare. The so-called choice at this year’s general election is between a bunch of privileged toffs who are open in their intentions, or snivelling fake Oxbridge twats in the Labour Party who will happily use our poverty to further their careers and then stab us in the back just as hard. Fuck the lot of them. Vote for Class War, with a brick or a ballot paper.

 

[treelover]

This week Reeves and her creepy underling Shadow Employment Minister Stephen Timms

The Christian Socialist Timm's, has a long history of being involved in welfare reform with very frequent meetings with UNUM in the early days of New Labour.

 

[treelover]

Well who would have thunk it, Labour have a open goal with large scale tax evasions, etc, instead they are announcing plans to clamp down on cash in hand, so you must get a receipt say from your gardener!

(no link, mentioned on paper review)

 

[Rob Ray]

Time for a 'Why the Morning Star is going down the pan' thread?

For context, no-one in the office is a big fan of wet Ed, it's a gentle piss-take. I would have thought it was obvious from the photo, but apparently not.

 

[bemused]

instead they are announcing plans to clamp down on cash in hand, so you must get a receipt say from your gardener!

It's one of those line items they add to pay for their commitments. I'm sure somehwere on Ed Balls' spreadsheet is says - cash in hand tax - £23bn

 

[treelover]

Ed Miliband: don't mistake my decency for weakness

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/mar/06/ed-miliband-dont-mistake-my-decency-for-weakness

In Guardian interview he says New Labour was ‘too sanguine’ on inequality

Ed comes out fighting

all a bit too late

 

[danny la rouge]

They weren't "too sanguine" on inequality; they were full of cracking wheezes to increase it.

 

[brogdale]

They weren't "too sanguine" on inequality; they were full of cracking wheezes to increase it.

I think the phrase was "Intensely relaxed", wasn't it?

 

[treelover]

Yes, most of the Tories welfare reforms built on Nl and Brown would have pursued most of them if they had got in,

I do think Milliband will reign in some of the extremes.

 

[Pickman's model]

Yes, most of the Tories welfare reforms built on Nl and Brown would have pursued most of them if they had got in,

I do think Milliband will reign in some of the extremes.

she reigns

she wears reins

do you see the difference?

 

[danny la rouge]

do you see the difference?

Between her maj and a horse?

No, not really.

 

[treelover]

WGAF!

 

[Pickman's model]

WGAF!

if you don't know the difference between reigns and reins - and indeed rains - then things have come to a very poor pass.

 

[Pickman's model]

Between her maj and a horse?

No, not really.

 

[danny la rouge]

Pickman's model

Well, they both have two birthdays a year and call their fathers Sire.

 

[Pickman's model]

Pickman's model

Well, they both have two birthdays a year and call their fathers Sire.

neigh neigh and thrice neigh

 

[brogdale]

Of the multitude of issues that are screaming for attention...Miliband alights upon today's soundbite. FFS

A future Labour government would take legal steps to ensure that live television debates become permanent features of general election campaigns, in a move to prevent politicians blocking them for their own self-interest.

Seriously, this is 'real'.

 

[agricola]

Of the multitude of issues that are screaming for attention...Miliband alights upon today's soundbite. FFS

It really is awe-inspiring that, in this day and age and with the country experiencing what it is, they could come out with that proposal.

 

[Wilf]

Just came to this thread to post that! Astonishing, desperate, tawdry...

 

[brogdale]

Meanwhile...the SIndy frontpage says (apparently)..

"The cunt factor"?

 

[DotCommunist]

fireside chats

 

[treelover]

The election is descending into farce, meanwhile poverty, inequality issues don't seem to be getting a look in.

 

[bemused]

Not sure it deserves the category of scum but expensing a £17 Remembrance Day wreath seems rather tight.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-31895703

 

[treelover]

I don't agree, it was on behalf of her role as a local M.P, it wasn't a personal gesture, afaik.

 

[nino_savatte]

Champion wasn't the only one to claim for a Remembrance Day wreath, some Tory (whose name escapes me) also claimed.