Westminster sexual abuse scandals

[Pickman's model]

Pickman's test for swimming ability

and you're not coming out until you reach the falklands

 

[agricola]

Quite possibly, but this information at the moment is coming from the copper who leaked it. The fact that he’s done so suggests a) he has an axe to grind, and b) he’s a snidey cunt.

Just FWIW this latest info isn't from the officer who initially leaked it (that was Bob Quick who Green attacked in his first statement on this allegation), its from a similarly-retired former officer who says he was part of the enquiry. Obviously they might be in cahoots, though then again there was a bit of gap between Quick making his allegations and this apparent confirmation of them.

 

[The Fornicator]

Why should I care about people looking at porn on a work computer?

 

[hash tag]

Seriously?

 

[steveo87]

Why should I care about people looking at porn on a work computer?

Cos he's a Tory and it's hilarious.

 

[Pickman's model]

Seriously?

He's not called the Fornicator for nothing, you know

 

[killer b]

The thread is a decent guide to the relative... productivity levels of various male urbs, if nothing else.

 

[Pickman's model]

The thread is a decent guide to the relative... productivity levels of various male urbs, if nothing else.

Yeh. I fulfilled my norm today, chuck

How did you do?

 

[planetgeli]

I just hope Damian Green didn’t inhale. And doesn’t, ever again.

 

[binka]

Obviously they might be in cahoots, though then again there was a bit of gap between Quick making his allegations and this apparent confirmation of them.

Two police conspiring to stitch someone up? Sounds a bit far-fetched

 

[Sue]

Did like Andrew Mitchell defending his pal on Today this morning. You know, *that* Andrew Mitchell.

Andrew Mitchell loses Plebgate libel trial

 

[killer b]

Yeh. I fulfilled my norm today, chuck

How did you do?

Just two cake sitting vids on my lunch. It was busy today tho.

 

[bimble]

Load of old bollocks this, which would be amusing if it wasn't belittling and replacing the real issue, the fact that women working in westmister on both sides of the house have been told to shut up after trying to report sexual abuse.

 

[Pickman's model]

Load of old bollocks this, which would be amusing if it wasn't belittling and replacing the real issue, the fact that women working in westmister on both sides of the house have been told to shut up after trying to report sexual abuse.

Only if you're being very partial. Do you think only women are subject to or report sexual abuse? The main issue is that abuse is so prevalent at westminster that people are abiding by this injunction.

 

[hipipol]

I was stunned by the revelation that it was "legal" pornography - the beeb radio news on at the mo has repeated the "legal" tag three times in one report. Is that because being an MP, it is assumed by the media that we the public would assume it must be truly perverted/insert deviance here?

 

[Pickman's model]

I was stunned by the revelation that it was "legal" pornography - the beeb radio news on at the mo has repeated the "legal" tag three times in one report. Is that because being an MP, it is assumed by the media that we the public would assume it must be truly perverted/insert deviance here?

He should seek the Chiltern hundreds if he won't watch the same sort of porn his cabinet colleagues swear by

 

[hash tag]

The beeb were desperately trying not to show bias

 

[BigTom]

I was stunned by the revelation that it was "legal" pornography - the beeb radio news on at the mo has repeated the "legal" tag three times in one report. Is that because being an MP, it is assumed by the media that we the public would assume it must be truly perverted/insert deviance here?

There was a lot of stories talking about how the porn he had would have been be illegal under the new rules so they were probably emphasising that it wasn't that kind of stuff (includes bestiality but also a lot of consensual bdsm stuff, i don't know the details)

 

[Pickman's model]

The beeb were desperately trying not to show bias

Not surprised. No one who has seen BIAS porn wants to see it again

 

[bimble]

Only if you're being very partial. Do you think only women are subject to or report sexual abuse? The main issue is that abuse is so prevalent at westminster that people are abiding by this injunction.

aye, i should've said 'people' instead of women. I meant this porn 'scandal' thing is a joke, imo, and not very funny given the context.

 

[Pickman's model]

aye, i should've said 'people' instead of women. I meant this porn 'scandal' thing is a joke, imo, and not very funny given the context.

Right. So the porn unimportant despite it being a factor in making it such a toxic workplace, in showing that things most people would get disciplined for are condoned, quite possibly being something people have complained of (eg MPs watching porn while their staff in the office). But to you it's an unfunny joke. Not sure you're giving this the consideration it merits.

 

[bimble]

Yes, i don't care at all if an mp watches porn on their work computer, long as its done in a private office and he wipes his own keyboard. I think the fuss is a ridiculous distraction.

 

[hash tag]

You don't give a toss that people are exploited or abused in making porn, that people can be easily offended by it, that an MP that you pay, is doing this instead of trying to run the country which is what he is paid to do. Fine. NEXT.

 

[Pickman's model]

Yes, i don't care at all if an mp watches porn on their work computer, long as its done in a private office and he wipes his own keyboard. I think the fuss is a ridiculous distraction.

Yeh. This is the sort of stepping stone behaviour which some people, like you, excuse or condone, but which is a marker of progression on the spectrum of abusive behaviour. If nothing else it also shows very poor security awareness (see eg 5 Ways Visiting Adult Websites Is Bad for Your Security & Privacy). So you've got someone who for more than a decade has been watching porn at work: grounds for concern around boundaries, around professionalism, around security awareness... But to you it doesn't matter a jot.

 

[redsquirrel]

Yes, i don't care at all if an mp watches porn on their work computer, long as its done in a private office and he wipes his own keyboard. I think the fuss is a ridiculous distraction.

This view applies only to MPs or anybody? Teachers, doctors, lecturers, civil servants?

What about the right of other workers not to have to be exposed to this crap?

 

[bimble]

I stand here on a Saturday evening defending the rights of some arsehole tory mp to wank at work . Be outraged , knock yourselves out, I just can't summon the energy to care and think its a silly distraction from the serious stuff, ie sexual abuse in westminster, and elsewhere. It reminds me of that spreadsheet that started this whole thing off, the mixing of the real issue with prurient personal 'oo er i disapprove' stuff.

 

[Pickman's model]

This view applies only to MPs or anybody? Teachers, doctors, lecturers, civil servants?

What about the right of other workers not to have to be exposed to this crap?

Yeh, I'd be sacked if I watched porn at work

 

[redsquirrel]

Yeh, I'd be sacked if I watched porn at work

Likewise.

 

[bimble]

Yeh, I'd be sacked if I watched porn at work

Yes, just another routine scandal the same old revelation that they're not treated the same as everyone else. shocking.

 

[redsquirrel]

You don't see any connection between a culture that thinks it's acceptable to watch porn in the workplace and the type of sexist crap women have reported?

Two years ago you were calling people apologists for sexual assault, now your defending the right of people to watch porn at work.