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I love West NOrwood. Think it is about being a mother though. Nbig mother:child friendly community. Every week day thre is a playgroup. I or the nanny do those with the little ones.

Shops are atrocious, though you can get a decent coffee at BLackbird , o girasol and even a couple of other places.

The pubs are all find, do what it days on the tin kind of places!
 
When I was a child in the 60's, WN was like Putney is today. B&Q was a huge cinema, we had 2 Art Stationers shops ,Book shops, haberdashery shops, 3 quality shoe shops, Tesco, Boots, a Ballet School behind the CO-OP (which is now a £1 shop with a smashed window) 2 record shops, 2 Toy shops, a Big department Store-where Superdrug is now, there was a huge Restaurant/Deli-where we now have a pop up loan shark business, 2 boutiques, a tropical fish shop, a beautiful Library, 5 Banks, a fabulous Community Hall, where Fetes and comptetitions ect were held in Knights Hill-opposite the (now) Bus Garage. At Xmas, I can remember 'Miss World' guesting at a Xmas Fair in 'Elmwood School'. I moved away in 1977, and when I returned, in 1987, the fantastic shops had started to disappear. The Knights Hill Beautiful Victorian Community hall had gone, replaced by fencing. The only saving grace was the Brick-a-brack market at Nettlefold Hall, where you could find beautiful antiques, and a Market, behind the Pub (which is now Tesco) where you could buy cheap leather shoes for your kids ect. All that was terminated in the late 90's-as was the very last Art supplies shop-Book shop ect. Finaly, the pretty row of 1930's style shops were demolished in Tulse Hill, to make way for an ugly block of flats, and not one of the retail shops beneath has yet opened with anything significant-exept for the Pharmacy. The drug culture-that wasn't present in my youth, has a lot to blame for this decline. I recently visited an addict centre in Brixton with an old friend who's fallen on bad times, and afterwards, I saw most of the addicts, roaming West Norwood, NOT Brixton! Any shootings ect, in my opinion are drug related. I reckon there should be a much stronger police presence around the area,and a drug/alchohol rehab programme unit set up in the area, where the people don't have to wait for hours to be diagnosed & treated.. The new 'Peace Camp' in Knights Hill, is almost certainly where the people with drug, alchohol & mental health problems have gone to live as a last resort.I knew this would happen eventualy with this government anyway. I predicted the riots, and have been appalled by wasted enormous stretches of land in this area, when people are homeless & afflicted. As this problem's affecting all the nobs (that are continuously getting burgled) Isn't it 'False economy' to just ignore this problem?
 
Great post slanny. :) I still like West Norwood! It's easy to see it was once grander though. I noticed Tesco was obviously once a pub and that such a long high street must have hosted a much wider breadth of businesses. Also West Norwood Cemetery was/is obviously a prestigious place to be buried. Wasn't (West) Norwood one of the Victorian financial suburbs, full of bankers and the likes? It looks like it was booming for a long time as there are some grand Edwardian houses as well as late Victorian ones.
I must have a further look up Knight's Hill. What is the Peace Camp you refer to?
I'm surprised at the mention of crime and drugs as I've not noticed many addicts or even drunks about and it's quite a leafy area, with much larger and apparently wealthier houses about. The most neglected part I've seen is the upper end of Norwood High Street, with more dead pubs and failing shops the further you get up the hill.
 
It was the Thurlow Arms before Jack Stamps. The bus stop even had it's name. Was a decent pub for a long time and then had a lot of problems with getting customers and also drugs as far as I know. It was a very large pub space to manage so I can understand why both had trouble getting revenue.
 
Yeah Thurlow Arms was the place to get all your drugs in the early 90s, it was basically overrun with dealers for a while.
Hairy, but useful, if you needed drugs... I got the best acid I ever took from there. Purple Hazes
 
Well we moved to West Norwood in December and I'm really enjoying living here. I don't find the high road depressing at all, and I think that the opening of the Sainsburys on the old Woolies site has perked that stretch of the high street up a little. The area with the four supermarkets, the fruit and veg stall, Blackbird bakery, O Girasol, the cemetery and the charity shops has a nice feel to it - certainly compared to the stretch of Streatham High Road that I lived off before - and I like the way it's all quite small really, compared to, say, Streatham or Brixton.

I was a bit worried about the buses, as when I lived on Tulse Hill in 2002, the 432 and 2 were pretty infrequent, but they seemed to have improved the service, plus there's the 68, 196 and the 322 as well. If anything, it feels quicker and easier to get anywhere from here than it did from Streatham Hill - sometimes getting down the hill to Brixton tube could take ages on a bus.

As for safety, it all seems fine - just like the places I've lived in Streatham and Brixton really.
 
Well we moved to West Norwood in December and I'm really enjoying living here. I don't find the high road depressing at all, and I think that the opening of the Sainsburys on the old Woolies site has perked that stretch of the high street up a little. The area with the four supermarkets, the fruit and veg stall, Blackbird bakery, O Girasol, the cemetery and the charity shops has a nice feel to it - certainly compared to the stretch of Streatham High Road that I lived off before - and I like the way it's all quite small really, compared to, say, Streatham or Brixton.

I was a bit worried about the buses, as when I lived on Tulse Hill in 2002, the 432 and 2 were pretty infrequent, but they seemed to have improved the service, plus there's the 68, 196 and the 322 as well. If anything, it feels quicker and easier to get anywhere from here than it did from Streatham Hill - sometimes getting down the hill to Brixton tube could take ages on a bus.

As for safety, it all seems fine - just like the places I've lived in Streatham and Brixton really.

The Railway by Tulse Hill station is a wicked pub. Kid-friendly during the day n' all.

Glad you're enjoying it there!
 
The Railway by Tulse Hill station is a wicked pub. Kid-friendly during the day n' all.

Glad you're enjoying it there!

Yep - definitely on that. I often meet my mates and their kids in there and it's a great pub. Also much less hectic kid wise than The Florence!
 
The Florence was crazy on NYD. We had a big lunch there. Kid-central, but worse than that, parent-central*.

*4 of our group were parents with their kids so obviously I exclude them from my ire.
 
The Florence was crazy on NYD. We had a big lunch there. Kid-central, but worse than that, parent-central*.

*4 of our group were parents with their kids so obviously I exclude them from my ire.

It's like a fucking creche in there tbh. I like kids but it's a bit much even for me and has got even worse since they built the play area out the back. That said it works for them so who am I to criticise.
 
I think that a creche is a bit of a 'jumping the shark' moment for any pub, tbh. 2 flatscreen TVs for the kids?! Jesus.
 
I love West NOrwood. Think it is about being a mother though. Nbig mother:child friendly community. Every week day thre is a playgroup. I or the nanny do those with the little ones.

Shops are atrocious, though you can get a decent coffee at BLackbird , o girasol and even a couple of other places.

The pubs are all find, do what it days on the tin kind of places!

I should have asked this at the time, but just in case you're still reading this thread...could you give me some details of where these playgroups are please? My youngest, who's three, goes to nursery in the morning, but it would be good to know of any One O'Clock clubs or similar that we can go to in the afternoon.

Miss-Shelf, I can't really do night time drinks as we have kids, but maybe a cuppa during a Feast sometime would be good...
 
I should have asked this at the time, but just in case you're still reading this thread...could you give me some details of where these playgroups are please? My youngest, who's three, goes to nursery in the morning, but it would be good to know of any One O'Clock clubs or similar that we can go to in the afternoon.

Miss-Shelf, I can't really do night time drinks as we have kids, but maybe a cuppa during a Feast sometime would be good...

I'll ask my mate who lives in West Norwood who has a 2 year old as she goes to quite a few :)
 
There's a one o'clock club in Norwood park. It's not open as often as it used to be but i think it's 12.30-3.30 on Mon, Tues and Fri. They also have dad's club on Saturday morning. Not sure of the exact time-think it's 11-12.30 ish?
 
Calling all Tulse Hillians and West Norwoodians...

http://westnorwood.wordpress.com/2012/06/26/future-of-west-norwood-library/

just got the above in my inbox - re West Norwood library. I don't know if you've ever been in the auditorium there (it's lovely) but it seems an independent cinema co is talking about using it in conjunction with getting the library back in there - there's a link to send your views at the bottom of the article as part of a consultation. Personally I'd love the library back, it had some cracking events both in the library itself and the auditorium and an independent cinema would be brilliant! Either way I do not want to see it sold off to property developers to make more "luxury" flats.
 
I'd love to see it sold off, and use the money to put a new library where B&Q is. Libraries should be where it's busy.

I think the council have been quietly trying to sell off the library through Lambert Smith Hampton for the last year or so. They must have had no takers. There is probably a limited demand for yuppy flats next to a cemetery.

An independant cinema would be great, but these sort of things are never financially viable without public subsidy (or profitable restaurants in the foyer - like the Ritzy has).
 
well I think that Boris just gave some money to WN on the understanding it would be matched by Lambeth and there is the improvement plan which I think is still allegedly going ahead in some form or other (including changes to the B&Q area). Bit busy right now to link/research to see if that's still the case - but there's certainly a push for regeneration. The leisure centre is currently being built by WN station. As for potential flats - it's a Victorian cemetery, very beautiful and whilst I wouldn't want to be building flats right now - they'd be not overlooked, next to a beautiful green space, v. near the train station and the sports centre. I'd rather it was still the library though. I would argue that spot is just as busy if not busier than where B&Q is and likely to become more so in the future. They're hardly miles apart in either case.

btw - there's an interesting art event happening in the cemetery soon I think this is it - unless there's two)...

http://www.porticogallery.org.uk/content/curious-art-trail

I used to use that library quite a bit and I know my students did too because I would bump into them there - and I wasn't even local at the time but it had good kids' stuff going on in the library and the auditorium.
 
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