I think it is a prelude.
Warrington Bomb Linked to Red Action - BBC News
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I think it is a prelude.
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Leave it!
These would be the completely ridiculous and unsubstantiated allegations made in last night's programme? Where's the hole?
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Leave it!
bignose1
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"if the man who allegedly headed the IRA's terror campaign in England can't tell us who bombed Warrington, then question's remain". Like he told them which individuals carried out all the other hundreds of attacks? What a ridiculous notion.
This man 'who allegedly headed the IRA's terror campaign in England' was 'born in Birmingham' but was not referred to as 'an Englishman', simply because that did not fit the narrative of the programme.
Irish republicans with English (or Scottish or Welsh) accents have featured prominently in every campaign of the last 100 years (including the last two killed in that particular campaign... Ed O'Brien and Diarmuid O'Neil).
Indeed in 1916 there were lots of English accents in the GPO - more than from practically any county in Ireland bar Dublin (120 men from the London Irish Volunteers - although I have never seen a breakdown of how many of these were Irish-born and how many had English accents) .
So for this programme to suggest that IRA men with English accents is something new, despite it being such a well documented historical trait (and despite the man they - dubiously - declare was 'in charge' of the whole fuckin campaign being born in Birmingham!) is ridiculous. But that's what suited the narrative of the 'journalists' involved.
This man 'who allegedly headed the IRA's terror campaign in England' was 'born in Birmingham' but was not referred to as 'an Englishman', simply because that did not fit the narrative of the programme.
Irish republicans with English (or Scottish or Welsh) accents have featured prominently in every campaign of the last 100 years (including the last two killed in that particular campaign... Ed O'Brien and Diarmuid O'Neil).
Indeed in 1916 there were lots of English accents in the GPO - more than from practically any county in Ireland bar Dublin (120 men from the London Irish Volunteers - although I have never seen a breakdown of how many of these were Irish-born and how many had English accents) .
So for this programme to suggest that IRA men with English accents is something new, despite it being such a well documented historical trait (and despite the man they - dubiously - declare was 'in charge' of the whole fuckin campaign being born in Birmingham!) is ridiculous. But that's what suited the narrative of the 'journalists' involved.
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bignose1
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Infact dont expand because pal your a fucking knob...a cock of the highest order. You deliberately put people on offer again. Infact your as bad as the arseholes who wheeled this piece of journalistic shite out last night. Even a cursory knowledge of personal relationships (that you knew existed more than most) during that sorry time renders your slurs bollocks, being as its central to their sorry story you'd know that. But that doesnt matter. You obviously couldn't contain yourself. So launch a cheap shot reminiscent of that stuff around NR's publication. I thought people had put to bed that miserable stuff months ago.
People are pm'ing me on this saying leave it and I will..as you make a good enough case for a clown than I could. Wanker.
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TopCat
Putin fanboy
What's this? A pre emptive strike?
malatesta32
Not Serb. No, Really!
can you say any more on that feller? slightly odd connection between republicanism and headhunter shite esp with the loyalist links of C18/HHs.
likesfish
You can't park here sir
Violent shithead gets off on violence?
articul8
Dishonest sociopath
to what?
bignose1
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No...when you respond that isnt pre-emptive. When your clown friend makes a statement like he did theyve either got to put up or shut the fuck up. He's a shit stirrer....a tittle tattler...... you seem to act like a tag team ...within minutes your on his cock.
As I said you condemn yourselves. I have nothing more to say.
Not really. I don't think he would appreciate it. Just that he was a sarf London boy who was a product of his time.
I would however say that the notion that all Chelsea's firm (or even most of them) were fash (or even fash symapthisers) is a silly over-simplification. What they did have was a very vocal and visible minority - some of whom were Chelsea fans who were Fash and some who were fash who decided to support Chelsea because the existenxce of the first group gave them a hard-on - and who were often regarded as mugs by other Chelsea hoolies..
says the ex-soldier. Unlike him, you were paid for your violence.
malatesta32
Not Serb. No, Really!
'What they did have was a very vocal and visible minority'
yeah, they wrote shit books about it after as well!
yeah, they wrote shit books about it after as well!
Nigel Irritable
Five, Ten, Fifteen Years
Can anyone summarise the meat of the programme? Was there anything there beyond "A Red Action member was done for one IRA bombing, therefore Red Action may have been responsible for whatever bombing we can think of"? Why Warrington in particular for instance?
Stop it, this is a hornet nest kicking exercise by departments who are having their budgets cut in the next parliament.
Like local authorities are trying to keep their budgets by highlighting problems that only exist in disrupting middle management, they are showing that their are threats or dangers where non exist.
Leave it alone, it is all supposition and mirrors.
Like local authorities are trying to keep their budgets by highlighting problems that only exist in disrupting middle management, they are showing that their are threats or dangers where non exist.
Leave it alone, it is all supposition and mirrors.
TopCat
Putin fanboy
I bet a crisp tenner that you have plenty more to say, chiefly comprising of insults, mock outrage, and general obfuscation.
bignose1
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Listen dick brain...its been quiet for ages...not sure whether it was an agree to disagree but it was getting barmy... then you call me in effect a grass...hardly an insult is it...and in the context a very dangerous one.
And it aint mock mate...that sort of shit gets people hurt...and as for obfuscation..dear dear..whose a clever boy.
You bring this in following several months of relative calm...on the back of a touchy subject...fuck me if I was one for fingering cunts with agendas you'd be right up there.
Outline in detail what you and your erstwhile comrade actually mean or STFU and stop the surplusage.
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TopCat
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You owe me a tenner.
bignose1
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Kiss my arse. Answer my question and Ill give you a £20 spot. Infact not a question just explain what your pal meant in detail with examples, places, people. If you dont your no better than the framing cnuts themselves.
love detective
there's no love too small
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you're all over the place here bignose
your hugely defensive and aggressive reaction to a post that contained nothing about you, nor in anyway related to you, is somewhat curious
as for 'deliberately putting people on offer' - where has that happened?
all that has happened is the private observation of the involvement of certain individuals in a number of what could otherwise be seen as unrelated incidents, attacks and smears. And that what unites them (in addition to the those behind and in front of them) is their ham-fisted & clumsy execution
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bignose1
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Your last para makes absolutely no sense whatsoever...I was going to add you couldnt make it up...but obviously YOU could. A private observation on a public forum wtf. You have alluded to people being behind this programme being responsible by association to those you had a beef with over BTF. Think about it. Its grassing. You throw a smear out there and hope some of it sticks. Its mob mentality...a cunts trick.
TopCat
Putin fanboy
You do a lot of projection on these boards, it's all plain for people to read on the beating the fascists thread. You never did explain why you strived so hard to stop the publication of BTF and when that failed why you turned up here to accuse all and sundry of being cunts, cocks etc or indeed what your involvement with Searchlight was/is about.
love detective
there's no love too small
it's not that hard to grasp bignose - the observation of the individual(s) involved is a private one - the reference to that observation without naming anyone is the public one
anyway, you've categorically denied having any involvement in any of the attacks on BTF and its authors - so why you getting so hot under the collar? guilty conscience?
likewise, it's unbelievable that you categorise the factual pointing out of those (not that I have done it here mind) who were actually involved in trying to stop the publication of BTF and see its authors in court as grassing or smearing
let's face it - the people involved in supplying names and addresses to Carter Ruck of antifascists so that they could pursue them through the legal system and in court is something much more akin to grassing, wouldn't you agree bignose?
That you categorise the attempts made to defend against those measures as grassing & smearing shows how far you've been warped by this whole thing
bignose1
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Rubbish..trying hard to stop a worthwhile book on AFA/RA would have been a cuntish thing...having reservations about how it was going to slander a good friend and comrade while his kids are still grieving his passing is another. Ive told you...you choose not to believe it is my contact with Searchlight ended in 1994. I have never spoken with anyone connected with the current two factions about BTF/RA/AFA for nearly two decades. Something you just cant handle.
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