War on Woke: Conservative Cultural Campaigning

[MrSki]

Partly in response to this:

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[8ball]

Incidentally, I learned what Sayre’s Law was yesterday.

 

[krtek a houby]

Liked, apart from the "taking the Mick" bit

 

[two sheds]

Liked, apart from the "taking the Mick" bit

not sure:

"Rhyming slang is a type of slang that replaces words with rhyming words or phrases, typically with the rhyming element omitted. For example, in the phrase not to have a scooby, scooby, rhyming slang for clue, is short for Scooby Doo, the name of a cartoon dog which features in several U.S. television series and films.

Mickey, also Mike, short for Michael, appear in Mickey Bliss, also Mike Bliss (or simply Mickey, also Mike), rhyming slang for the noun piss, urine, act of urination " ?

‘to take the mickey out of someone’: meaning and origin

UK, 1891—‘to take the mickey (or ‘the mike’) out of’: ‘to tease or ridicule’—probably after ‘Mickey (or ‘Mike’) Bliss’, rhyming slang for ‘piss’

wordhistories.net

 

[krtek a houby]

not sure:

"Rhyming slang is a type of slang that replaces words with rhyming words or phrases, typically with the rhyming element omitted. For example, in the phrase not to have a scooby, scooby, rhyming slang for clue, is short for Scooby Doo, the name of a cartoon dog which features in several U.S. television series and films.

Mickey, also Mike, short for Michael, appear in Mickey Bliss, also Mike Bliss (or simply Mickey, also Mike), rhyming slang for the noun piss, urine, act of urination " ?

‘to take the mickey out of someone’: meaning and origin

UK, 1891—‘to take the mickey (or ‘the mike’) out of’: ‘to tease or ridicule’—probably after ‘Mickey (or ‘Mike’) Bliss’, rhyming slang for ‘piss’

wordhistories.net

Am aware of that side to it, yeah.

It's a term that is... open to interpretation and used maliciously by some... IME

 

[two sheds]

fair play, hadn't realized that side of it

 

[8ball]

Mike Bliss the NASCAR driver?

 

[krtek a houby]

fair play, hadn't realized that side of it

Most don't use it in derogatory fashion, but it can be.

First exposed to the malicious use years ago and was taken aback. Had used it in the past but the penny kind of dropped, at that moment.

Anyway. An otherwise admirable reply to the Mail from the union fella.

 

[killer b]

Hang on, why 'otherwise'? The guy isn't being racist, he's using the not-racist term 'taking the mick' in it's normal and commonly understood non racist way.

 

[8ball]

Hang on, why 'otherwise'? The guy isn't being racist, he's using the not-racist term 'taking the mick' in it's normal and commonly understood non racist way.

Hard to know what he’s thinking, though, innit?

 

[killer b]

He's thinking 'taking the mick'. The only time it's racist is when a racist is using it to be racist to someone Irish. Any other time its just taking the mick.

 

[Almor]

Things that I have seen being called 'woke' lately:

Being interested in history

Presumably it's not woke to be interested in history in the form of imperialist/confederate statues (or a local equivalent) though? Asking for a not-racist aunt and uncle

 

[8ball]

Presumably it's not woke to be interested in history in the form of imperialist/confederate statues (or a local equivalent) though? Asking for a not-racist aunt and uncle

That’s woke so long as you’re not pro-slavery.

 

[krtek a houby]

The IRA had a marvelous peak woke moment as far back as '66, when it came to statues

 

[Serge Forward]

Er... I always thought taking the mick was from micturation.

 

[Boris Sprinkler]

Yes. As explained to me by my Irish mother

 

[platinumsage]

“taking” has very colonialist roots though.

 

[ATOMIC SUPLEX]

I'm just happy to hear about the mickey bliss rhyming slang (always said Michael / mickey myself anyway).

 

[Monkeygrinder's Organ]

Presumably it's not woke to be interested in history in the form of imperialist/confederate statues (or a local equivalent) though? Asking for a not-racist aunt and uncle

I expect they get around that by having no real interest in the actual history at all tbh.

 

[Boris Sprinkler]

I would quite like a conversation with a Tory, about pride flags they like to display this time of year.
I would feign ignorance of the flag and have them explain it to me. Like I'm 5. So I could ask awkward questions that I should have been asking at 12 years old, except I wasn't allowed to learn about it.

 

[8ball]

“taking” has very colonialist roots though.

Decolonise the piss!

 

[Doctor Carrot]

My favourite one was hearing e bikes and e scooters described as woke because they're more eco friendly than petrol powered vehicles.

 

[krtek a houby]

Er... I always thought taking the mick was from micturation.

That, too.

However, it is/has been used in a derogatory fashion over the years.

Guess it's up to the user, what's intended (or not intended) at the end of the day.

 

[8ball]

Guess it's up to the user, what's intended (or not intended) at the end of the day.

Best they clearly indicate their intention, to avoid causing confusion.

 

[krtek a houby]

Best they clearly indicate their intention, to avoid causing confusion.

Could substitute with Michael or piss, perhaps

 

[8ball]

Could substitute with Michael or piss, perhaps

Or mickey(r), mickey(nr) or mickey(pd).

 

[krtek a houby]

Have known a few randoms over the years, who, having been explained that a certain term is offensive to some, still carry on using them.

Meh

 

[8ball]

Have known a few randoms over the years, who, having been explained that a certain term is offensive to some, still carry on using them.

Meh

Guess it depends on the “some”. They might not believe it is offensive to a significant number of a group, may avoid using such a term in front of members of that group, or may just use it in front of you to underline that they are not willing to be told what they can or cannot say.

 

[krtek a houby]

Guess it depends on the “some”. They might not believe it is offensive to a significant number of a group, may avoid using such a term in front of members of that group, or may just use it in front of you to underline that they are not willing to be told what they can or cannot say.

For sure. But reckon it's not telling folks what they can or cannot say, more like pointing out words or phrases that cause discomfort.

 

[NoXion]

Apparently, "not dying of heat stroke" is now a bunch of wokery.