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I think you're five months behind the times if you expect the Labour party to launch a stringent attack on the government. .
But even within the internal logic of starmer's critical support arsery, this would provide the perfect opportunity to highlight appalling failure and to position Labour on the side of students and university staff. Maybe they are waiting for Marcus Rashford to take the lead? Trouble is he's busy and on a long coach ride back from Brighton today.
 
Our place is doing that. Literally no students are turning up for tests, presumably because they're smart enough to realise it risks them being locked inside for 14 days during freshers week.
'Turn up to our safe campus and get covid. Take a test and get stuck in the plague ship for another two weeks' - scenarios rejected by Kafka as being too silly.
 
I've just been trying to find a Labour Party response to the campus outbreaks and can't.

Main story that crops up when you search is Kate Green apologising for saying Labour should take advantage of the crisis in general and that it's a 'good crisis'.
Sidelined Long-Bailey of course - who whatever her flaws was willing to come along and talk at virtual meetings of union members
 
Students in South Manchester
Bit of a microcosm of the whole things going on in this thread. I'm 59 and worried/angry/incredulous about the virus spreading via universities. Suspect most of the people posting on this are a bit younger than me but a lot are 40 plus. Then you've got some 18 year olds doing what 18 years olds do in the very places we are all worried about. And finally there are the Universities and government who couldn't conceive of a future that didn't involve turning halls of residence into plague ships. We truly are fucked.
 
I am genuinely (and possibly naively) surprised at the stories of lack of pastoral care.

Aside from it being, y'know, humane, given the massive national focus on unis at the moment and the fact you want them to stick around, does seem just such a massive oversight.
 
I have a bit of contact with local Uni wellbeing services through my work; they'll be run ragged checking up on the students who are talking about suicide/floridly psychotic/have severe eating disorders etc and their immediate neighbours stuck in possibly very traumatic situations to be able to offer much in the way of general pastoral care. The fact that those services were overwhelmed in normal years is another reason this should not have happened. :(:mad:
 
Sounds like Glasgow are now doing something...
Meanwhile, hundreds of students are isolating at Glasgow University because of two coronavirus clusters.

The university said it would offer a four-week rent rebate to all students in university residences in recognition of the "difficult circumstances" under which they were living.

It said those students would also be given £50 each to spend on food and it would invite local mobile food outlets to come to residences.
 
I just spent an absent 30 seconds trying to discover who was minister for HE or Universities and Science, whatever, but gave up, overcome with a desire to get me tea. It did used to be Chris Skidmore, which seemed kind of appropriate.
 
I have a bit of contact with local Uni wellbeing services through my work; they'll be run ragged checking up on the students who are talking about suicide/floridly psychotic/have severe eating disorders etc and their immediate neighbours stuck in possibly very traumatic situations to be able to offer much in the way of general pastoral care. The fact that those services were overwhelmed in normal years is another reason this should not have happened. :(:mad:
Aye, sorry, certainly didn't mean to criticise those who are doing the best they can, and it's no surprise that such services are under-resourced at the best of times.
 
Aye, sorry, certainly didn't mean to criticise those who are doing the best they can, and it's no surprise that such services are under-resourced at the best of times.

I didn't see you criticising :) The fact is these students should receive pastoral care; it's shocking that they aren't, but part of the scandal of this is everyone with power in this sector must have known that wasn't possible going into this.
 
I didn't see you criticising :) The fact is these students should receive pastoral care; it's shocking that they aren't, but part of the scandal of this is everyone with power in this sector must have known that wasn't possible going into this.
Aye, that's certainly more what I was going for in my original post, just wasn't sure it had come across :oops:

Has certainly put me in a mind to check on Monday just what we're doing for our students... :hmm:
 
I just spent an absent 30 seconds trying to discover who was minister for HE or Universities and Science, whatever, but gave up, overcome with a desire to get me tea. It did used to be Chris Skidmore, which seemed kind of appropriate.
Minister of State for Universities = Michelle Donelan
 
Its not clear from that if they mean abertay uni in dundee or abertay uni and dundee uni. If they mean the latter I can't find anything saying there is any positive test there.

It looks like they're listed separately, but yeah I'm only finding reports about Abertay. Do the Unis mingle much?
 
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