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scifisam said:
It's unusual to meet someone under 40 with a tenancy, and if they do it's because of problems that will usually make it difficult for them to date, at least in the casual partying way you're talking about.

I'm not sure how to explain that single young people getting council flats is just not going to happen because it's been the reality for quite a long time. That sounds arsey, and it's not meant to be, so apologies for the way it comes across.
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Succession never happens in scifisamland I see
 
Who's talking about casual partying? Now I really am confused.

I do get what you're saying, but there are some extremely undesirable blocks in Birmingham - I can imagine many people turning them down. Although a lot of them have been knocked down now. Anyway let's get back to unis....
 
miss direct said:
Impossible? So who actually lives in council flats then?

Sorry this is all going rather off topic. I briefly looked into applying to be on the list for council housing but seems I'm not even eligible to be on the list.
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I think the number of people signing new tenancies for council flats must be dwindling fast. The secure lifelong tenancies went a couple of years ago & the hoops to get thru to obtain one have been getting gradually harder to negotiate for a while longer than that.

I would guess that the average age of a council tenant is going up and up. For a younger adult to get a council flat now (& it’d be a 2-10 year tenancy) I think they’d have to be leaving care.

Am far from a expert tho just have a couple of friends who work in housing.
 
nyxx said:
I think the number of people signing new tenancies for council flats must be dwindling fast. The secure lifelong tenancies went a couple of years ago & the hoops to get thru to obtain one have been getting gradually harder to negotiate for a while longer than that.

I would guess that the average age of a council tenant is going up and up. For a younger adult to get a council flat now (& it’d be a 2-10 year tenancy) I think they’d have to be leaving care.

Am far from a expert tho just have a couple of friends who work in housing.
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even leaving care ime you're looking at a few years bouncing around temp accommodation schemes before you get a council flat
 
miss direct said:
Who's talking about casual partying? Now I really am confused.

I do get what you're saying, but there are some extremely undesirable blocks in Birmingham - I can imagine many people turning them down. Although a lot of them have been knocked down now. Anyway let's get back to unis....
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I thought about casual partying because of the other stuff you mentioned - you didn't make it sound like you met your BF at anything organised.

People might not turn them down, but they won't be offered to a young homeless man without children in the first place. It just doesn't happen. You can get affordable rent housing, maybe.
 
Update the Manchester Metropolitan numbers.

www.bbc.co.uk

Covid outbreak: Manchester Metropolitan University students in lockdown

Students at a Manchester university said "police and security were outside" and morale was low.
www.bbc.co.uk

Hundreds of university students in Manchester have been forced to self-isolate "with immediate effect".
Up to 1,700 students will isolate for 14 days after 99 at Manchester Metropolitan University tested positive for Covid-19.
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Megan Tingy, a student at Manchester Metropolitan, said: "We were getting ready to go out and looked out to security and police outside the halls. They say we can't leave.
"We haven't received any emails from university about this and they seem to be holding us in against our will.
"My dad has been calling the university to find out what is going on."
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At Birley, Chip Wilson, 19, said: "We have been told we are not allowed to leave and if we do we cannot come back, so now we are all stuck inside.
We are all worried about how we will get food and how long this will last. We only got an email to say it was happening as it was happening this evening.
On top of all this many of us here have Covid symptoms but we cannot get tests. We can only get drive-through tests and none of us have cars, and even if we did we can't leave now."
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killer b said:
This account from Glasgow echoes the MMU story. I can't see how there won't be the same from every university in the country within a couple of weeks.

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I'm a broken record on this, but any policy maker with an ounce of sense would A. simply stop any more students coming onto campus and B. find a way to get the rest back home after isolation. Even talking about that - which won't happen anyway - is insane and a sign of the mad place we've reached. Even the most timorous adviser must have been able to tell that this was inevitable. I don't often compare students to workers in sweatshops, but living in halls and freshers week partying is comparable to the unregulated workplaces that have been linked to outbreaks (at least in relation to covid) , but on a much larger scale.
 
Wilf said:
I'm a broken record on this, but any policy maker with an ounce of sense would A. simply stop any more students coming onto campus and B. find a way to get the rest back home after isolation. Even talking about that - which won't happen anyway - is insane and a sign of the mad place we've reached. Even the most timorous adviser must have been able to tell that this was inevitable. I don't often compare students to workers in sweatshops, but living in halls and freshers week partying is comparable to the unregulated workplaces that have been linked to outbreaks (at least in relation to covid) , but on a much larger scale.
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Totally agree. This was only ever going to fail, it's pure madness.
 
Cid said:
This was totally foreseeable. It's fucking insane.
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Now, now, that just is not fair.
How could anyone have foreseen that putting loads of (young) people together in enclosed buildings would cause a rise. Why you'd need the type of foresight that meant that you could predict that there would be a rise in testing once schools started re-opening.
 
chilango said:
  1. St Andrews
  2. Edinburgh Napier
  3. Glasgow
  4. Stirling
  5. Oxford Brookes
  6. Bath
  7. Manchester Metropolitan
  8. Liverpool
  9. Swansea
  10. Aberdeen
  11. Robert Gordon
  12. Abertay
  13. Exeter
  14. Queen Margaret
  15. Kent
  16. Uni of West England (Bristol)
  17. Leeds
  18. Warwick
  19. De Montfort (Leicester)
  20. Gloucestershire
  21. Hull
  22. Newcastle
  23. Durham
  24. Salford
  25. Northumbria
  26. Essex
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A notable absence of London unis there, which is a bit curious given it's the biggest concentration of unis in the country. I wonder if they've done anything different? Or maybe students saw London as riskier and were less likely to go into halls? I guess it will emerge with time.
 
Brainaddict said:
A notable absence of London unis there, which is a bit curious given it's the biggest concentration of unis in the country. I wonder if they've done anything different? Or maybe students saw London as riskier and were less likely to go into halls? I guess it will emerge with time.
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University of East London term doesn't start till Monday 28th (except for a few postgrad courses). I don't know about other unis.
 
Give it time for London. It's a top destination for international students, with many currently in "quarantine" and many more set to arrive soon.

Expecting Sheffield to pop up on the list any day now.

So when these students escape and flee back "home", for those fortunate enough to have somewhere they can go, can we expect to see a big rise in cases as it spreads?
 
Quite a number of the suitably equipped universities are running their own testing programmes using their own biomedical staff and labs. Most London universities (main) terms don't start till this coming week or the following week (so freshers week was this week just gone or is next week). Add the best part of another week to that for symptoms to start manifesting and tests to be taken.
 
My son is due to enrol in a couple of weeks. So far he hasn't much idea about the virus except that he has to wear a mask in the shops. I hope to get social distancing and hand washing drilled into him before enrolment.
 
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