Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
exactly. shit system innit.
United Airlines violently drag passenger off overbooked flight
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bi0boy
Power User
What would your non-shit system be to ensure no flight is ever cancelled due to unavailability of crew?
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
i don't have one. i am criticising the present one.
Gromit
International Man of Misery
New York to LA by train. 76 hours travel including a 5 hour stop in Chicago. $299
Flight 7-8 hours $166
Bit of a no brainer.
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
Yep, train would be much better. you'd see so much more. it would be well worth it.
Lord Camomile
Yipchaa!
If you can spare the extra day and $133 to begin with...
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
What if you don't want to see more. Just get to where you want to go? Like normal people.
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
I was speaking for myself. If I ever visit America to cross it from the east to west, I'd want to take my time and see it from the ground.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
selling something you don't in fact have, like a seat on a plane or a harvest that hasn't come in yet is exactly why capitalism is fucked. Speculation can go fuck itself
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
Hardly pertinent to the conversation at hand though is it. The vast majority of people who take internal flights across the US couldn't give a fuck about what's between their travel points.
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
I was responding to Gromit's claim that it was a no brainer.
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
Because they're not stupid
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
Not very practical
bi0boy
Power User
But they will get see the scenery, and rabbit on to the person in the opposite seat about the injustice of air travel for three days.
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
Don't be silly
Johnny Canuck3
Well-Known Member
The system is different now. At one time, it was possible to fly 'stand-by', and take advantage of last minute deals on planes about to depart that were under capacity. There were also times when one would be on a plane that was half-full or less. I once travelled to Hong Kong on a 747 that was so empty, that I could stretch out over the 5 middle seats in one row, and sleep part of the way.
Talking to a travel agent, standby is becoming a thing of the past.
A380
How do I change this 'custom title' thing then?
Trains in the US are ridiculously cheap. Problem
Is away from the NE corridor there aren't many of them and the Amtrak (government owned and subsidiesd ) passenger services run on privately owned fright tracks where the freight companys' own trains have priority. It's very civilised though. They take your bags like an airline.
I got tickets for four for NY- Washington-Charleston--Orlando for £800. All bar the last leg business class. A great way to see the country but you might not want to do it if you were traveling NY to Florida every week...,
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Yossarian
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Same reason British people traveling to Istanbul, Barcelona, Moscow, etc. would generally take a plane instead of a train, and those cities are a lot closer to London than New York is to LA.
FridgeMagnet
Administrator
Overbooking is not done for environmental issues or anything like that; the exact same number of flights would fly regardless. One thing it does do is con people into booking flights that they wouldn't have otherwise taken. If you think you can get a seat on the 7pm flight, and the 8pm would be too late, you'll go for that rather than look for alternative arrangements.
People don't take trains because there are no trains. You can get the Amtrak between certain cities on the east coast but outside of that, really, suggesting taking the train in the US will leave people thinking that you're from some sort of alternate steampunk universe.
People don't take trains because there are no trains. You can get the Amtrak between certain cities on the east coast but outside of that, really, suggesting taking the train in the US will leave people thinking that you're from some sort of alternate steampunk universe.
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Combustible
Well-Known Member
Might not even be possible soon
The corporation wants guaranteed profits AND flexibility. Uhm, ok.
They could sell tickets for flights and tough shit if you miss the flight. That way you can pass the responsibility onto the consumer. But they want to sell premium 'open' tickets, for more money, whilst hedging their bets.
Dragging people off a flight isn't a good business model. They've already paid the money in the premium model.
They could sell tickets for flights and tough shit if you miss the flight. That way you can pass the responsibility onto the consumer. But they want to sell premium 'open' tickets, for more money, whilst hedging their bets.
Dragging people off a flight isn't a good business model. They've already paid the money in the premium model.
coley
Well-Known Member
True. And The workable alternative is? Life's a bugger ain't it?
coley
Well-Known Member
Normal people? I like travelling, as slowly as possible in order to experience the errr 'experience'
I'm starting to think I'm some kind of weirdo, I mean, a very cheap three day layover in Singapore en route to NZ, courtesy of Singapore Airlines and the same offer on the return flight?
No, must rush
Normal people? I like travelling, as slowly as possible in order to experience the errr 'experience'
I'm starting to think I'm some kind of weirdo, I mean, a very cheap three day layover in Singapore en route to NZ, courtesy of Singapore Airlines and the same offer on the return flight?
No, must rush
Yeah but you're on holiday, not commuting.
Long train journeys are bullshit. I went to Leeds from Bristol once. On the train. Three fucking hours. For work.
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bi0boy
Power User
Profit margins in the airline industry are tiny compared to other industries. If they didn't overbook they'd have to squeeze someone else. Perhaps you'd like to see their staff fucked over some more?
The alternative is state subsidy, perhaps you'd prefer that?
I think I'd prefer state subsidy over passengers getting their teeth knocked out, yes. Wouldn't you?
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