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[quote="Kaka Tim, post: 12964455, member:
respectfully i disagree, you plainly havent been watching the news. Theres been no riots in Crimea because theres nothing to riot against ,the people and local institutions are largely on the same side . The rejection of Kievs writ has therefore been largely peaceful and constitutional . And youll see the demonstrations backing it this afternoon ,given youve obviously missed the previous ones, the parliament take over and the installation of new leaders in recent days .
the overwhelming majority of ukrainians took no part in those riots . Outside that square kiev was mostly normal . It was not a popular revolt, it was a fascist coup . Whch suceeded largely as a result of Yanukovichs blundering and a police force told to stand there like dummies and just take it for months on end until their morale totally collapsed . While he negotiated peace after peace, amnesty after amnesty to no avail. Showing nothing but fear and weakness that just emboldened the fascists with every failed attempt to appease them . He was idiotically negotiating peace with politicians who didnt control the fascists and undermining himself week in week out with every failure.
the world wont give a fuck if those nazis stamp their writ there . They have to be stopped and not by guardian editorials . Ukranian nationalism doesnt need any encouragement, the freindship trains from kiev were already promised and in motion .Their gunmen made their move on the parliament last night and they were chased off . Crimea and the eastern regions have expressly asked for this help and more .Thankfully theyre getting it
that will happen anyway . But in the meantime if he fails to assist those who reject the fascist coup then he betrays them and strengthens the fascists, who as weve seen arent appeased by any show of weakness . Quite the reverse. Failure to act would see those of russian ethnicity go the way of kosovos serbs
the pro kremlin media has made no secret of their disdain for Yanukovich as a person . Nontheless there was a coup against an elected president and whats happening in kiev is unconstitutional. The regions Putin is assisting are rejecting Kievs writ on that basis , that the kiev coup has no legitimacy. Therefore the elected president has . The personality has to be seperated from the position within constitutional matters . Yanukovich is finished as an acting leader or future leader . But its his position as president and the legitimacy of that post and the overthrow of the constitution which remains a basis for negotiation between the regions, should negotiations ever take place . Its not about attempting to reinstall him, its about countering the coups claim to have a legitimate right to exercise authority over the regions that regard the coup as unconstitutional and illegitimate .
respectfully i disagree, you plainly havent been watching the news. Theres been no riots in Crimea because theres nothing to riot against ,the people and local institutions are largely on the same side . The rejection of Kievs writ has therefore been largely peaceful and constitutional . And youll see the demonstrations backing it this afternoon ,given youve obviously missed the previous ones, the parliament take over and the installation of new leaders in recent days .
the overwhelming majority of ukrainians took no part in those riots . Outside that square kiev was mostly normal . It was not a popular revolt, it was a fascist coup . Whch suceeded largely as a result of Yanukovichs blundering and a police force told to stand there like dummies and just take it for months on end until their morale totally collapsed . While he negotiated peace after peace, amnesty after amnesty to no avail. Showing nothing but fear and weakness that just emboldened the fascists with every failed attempt to appease them . He was idiotically negotiating peace with politicians who didnt control the fascists and undermining himself week in week out with every failure.
the world wont give a fuck if those nazis stamp their writ there . They have to be stopped and not by guardian editorials . Ukranian nationalism doesnt need any encouragement, the freindship trains from kiev were already promised and in motion .Their gunmen made their move on the parliament last night and they were chased off . Crimea and the eastern regions have expressly asked for this help and more .Thankfully theyre getting it
that will happen anyway . But in the meantime if he fails to assist those who reject the fascist coup then he betrays them and strengthens the fascists, who as weve seen arent appeased by any show of weakness . Quite the reverse. Failure to act would see those of russian ethnicity go the way of kosovos serbs
the pro kremlin media has made no secret of their disdain for Yanukovich as a person . Nontheless there was a coup against an elected president and whats happening in kiev is unconstitutional. The regions Putin is assisting are rejecting Kievs writ on that basis , that the kiev coup has no legitimacy. Therefore the elected president has . The personality has to be seperated from the position within constitutional matters . Yanukovich is finished as an acting leader or future leader . But its his position as president and the legitimacy of that post and the overthrow of the constitution which remains a basis for negotiation between the regions, should negotiations ever take place . Its not about attempting to reinstall him, its about countering the coups claim to have a legitimate right to exercise authority over the regions that regard the coup as unconstitutional and illegitimate .
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