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frogwoman said:
I don't know what this is about, and I've got CR on ignore, so don't know what I'm meant to have said. Basically in no way have I insulted any race over the course of this thread. unless he's got me confused with somebody else? :confused:
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As you have him on ignore, I seem to recall that he didn't much like your drawing to people's attention that there are Russian fascists as well as Ukrainian ones, I surmise that this doesn't fit in with his worldview. Something along those lines anyway it was pages ago and seems to have been festering ever since. That and maybe he's a misogynist, fuck knows.
 
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infamy..infamy
 
I haven't got it in for you. You have a few pertinent things to say here and there and also occasionally post up some interesting links. However you tacit support for the likes of Assad and Putin means I stopped taking you seriously quite some time ago. :)
 
Casually Red said:
the woman...
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"The woman"? Why am I not surprised you used such a reductive sexist device?

has regularly levelled any slur going against the people in the south resisting Kiev .
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Post up some proof, or stand the fuck down.

The latest honest mistake in a long line . Set against a backdrop of blatant openly tolerated russophobia in western european media and on this site ive a perfect right to object to it and ask why such open hatred .
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As opposed to your slightly-masked hatred, you mean?

the rest of your post is just hysterical dishonest bollocks..pure and simple. Much like the last one.
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So you're accusing them of emulating your own posting style. Fair enough.
 
kebabking said:
i think you have it.

confused as a newt... or just a bigotted, unpleasant, strongman obsessed creep who's views and words bare no relation whatsoever to the wider philosophy and ideology he claims to support? take your pick.
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To be fair, he does only claim to be casually red.
 
http://www.theguardian.com/world/20...strations-outside-partliament-anti-corruption

Clashes broke out on Tuesday between demonstrators and police in front of Ukraine’s parliament in Kiev as deputies inside repeatedly voted down proposals to recognise a contentious second world war-era Ukrainian partisan group as national heroes.

Thousands of Svoboda nationalist party supporters rallied earlier in the capital in celebration of the Ukrainian Insurgent Army, whose struggle for independence for Ukraine was tainted by its collaboration with the Nazis.

Later, masked men attacked and threw smoke grenades at lines of police outside parliament; Svoboda said its members were not responsible for the unrest, which police said was orchestrated by a small group of people at the rally. The interior ministry said 36 people were detained by police.
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CNT36 said:
http://www.theguardian.com/world/20...strations-outside-partliament-anti-corruption
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Thousands of Svoboda nationalist party supporters rallied earlier in the capital in celebration of the Ukrainian Insurgent Army, whose struggle for independence for Ukraine was tainted by its collaboration with the Nazis.

to put it mildly. Actually it was tainted by the most bestial acts of genocide that put nazi atrocities well into second place in terms of sheer barbarism.

typical from the Guardian at this point ...either acting as apologists or outrght cheerleaders for these scum. Not a pop at the poster btw...just the slant that crappy paper continually puts on these animals.
 
Ukraine: war as a means of social control

In Ukraine the tumultuous social movement of last winter has been overtaken, divided, and almost silenced, by military conflict. It is a sobering contrast to those times in history, for example at the end of the first and second world wars, when military conflict produced social revolts. This article attempts to consider the historical parallels and what they mean for socialists.
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had hoped to hear more about this sort of thing at the bookfair meeting.
 
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-29702522

A leading human rights group says it has strong evidence Ukraine attacked populated areas of Donetsk with cluster bombs, banned by many other states.
Human Rights Watch (HRW) accuses the army of using the deadly weapon, which scatters bomblets, to shell the rebel-held eastern city earlier this month.
There was no comment from Ukraine, which did not sign up to the 2008 global treaty banning cluster bombs.
Meanwhile, new talks are due on Ukraine's gas dispute with Russia.
 
frogwoman said:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-29702522

A leading human rights group says it has strong evidence Ukraine attacked populated areas of Donetsk with cluster bombs, banned by many other states.
Human Rights Watch (HRW) accuses the army of using the deadly weapon, which scatters bomblets, to shell the rebel-held eastern city earlier this month.
There was no comment from Ukraine, which did not sign up to the 2008 global treaty banning cluster bombs.
Meanwhile, new talks are due on Ukraine's gas dispute with Russia.
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Full details here.
 
The book chapter on the sovnarkhozy looks okay (the whole thing is expensive).

I have a copy of Donald Filtzer's Soviet Workers and De-Stalinization if anyone wants it. It covers the above.

And the unintended effects of Communists fostering a more coherent Ukrainian nationalism in George O. Liber's Soviet Nationality Policy, Urban Growth, and Identity Change in the Ukrainian SSR 1923–1934.
 
seventh bullet said:
The book chapter on the sovnarkhozy looks okay (the whole thing is expensive).

I have a copy of Donald Filtzer's Soviet Workers and De-Stalinization if anyone wants it. It covers the above.

And the unintended effects of Communists fostering a more coherent Ukrainian nationalism in George O. Liber's Soviet Nationality Policy, Urban Growth, and Identity Change in the Ukrainian SSR 1923–1934.
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Here and here.
 
might as well stick this in here

http://nypost.com/2014/11/12/accused-terrorist-white-widow-killed-by-russian-sniper/

"A British woman, the accused terrorist dubbed the “White Widow,” has been killed by a Russian sniper in Ukraine, a Russian news service reported Wednesday.

Samantha Lewthwaite, 30, was gunned down two weeks ago, the Regnum news agency in Moscow said.

Lewthwaite was married to Germaine Lindsay, a suicide bomber who killed 26 commuters on a London subway — in the “7/7” attacks on July 7, 2005.
She allegedly fled Britain in 2009."
 
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