Ukip - why are they gaining support?

[butchersapron]

I don't think anyone has ever thought of that question no. And given that UKIP don't support repatriation i don't think they'd have much trouble dealing with it if some fiendishly clever person dared ask them.

 

[J Ed]

I don't think anyone has ever thought of that question no. And given that UKIP don't support repatriation i don't think they'd have much trouble dealing with it if some fiendishly clever person dared ask them.

A lot of people are spending a lot of time disseminating the idea that they are, thereby causing a lot of grief to families like the one which treelover mentions.

 

[treelover]

Spooky, do you think my friend and his family over reacted with their fears for the future

 

[Favelado]

You can have all them pensioners in Benidorm back and we'll take the tax-payers. Fine.

 

[DotCommunist]

You can have all them pensioners in Benidorm back and we'll take the tax-payers. Fine.

bizarrely, ex pats get a vote here. Thats right, they spent the last decade living and working in Mombasa, but they still have a say in the polity they haven't lived in for ten years. Makes no sense

 

[butchersapron]

You can have all them pensioners in Benidorm back and we'll take the tax-payers. Fine.

Don't they pay tax? Who you swapping them for?

 

[JTG]

Don't they pay tax? Who you swapping them for?

Hard working families

 

[brogdale]

Hard working families

Britain Better Off

 

[chilango]

bizarrely, ex pats get a vote here. Thats right, they spent the last decade living and working in Mombasa, but they still have a say in the polity they haven't lived in for ten years. Makes no sense

It's fairly limited though. I tried to exercise my ex-pat voting rights and failed miserably. As I also did trying to vote on my adopted country. Too many hoops to jump through.

 

[Fedayn]

 

[DairyQueen]

Miliband is an opportunistic twat. Hope Labour fucking die.

 

[DotCommunist]

note leaders change= party change

when we know that isn't the case. Even with flaccid shadow whips.

 

[butchersapron]

Britain Better Off

Terrorists win.

 

[Favelado]

Don't they pay tax? Who you swapping them for?

Just a facetious comment related to the fact that its immigrants who will pay the next generation's pensions. Capitalism has us locked into immigration regardless of whether people like it or not. What's UKIP's answer to the demographics? Is that another question no-one's bothered to ask them?

 

[butchersapron]

Just a facetious comment related to the fact that its immigrants who will pay the next generation's pensions. Capitalism has us locked into immigrationm regardless of whether people like it or not. What's UKIP's answer to the demographics? Is that another question no-one's bothered to ask them?

That last question was a bit rubbish, so let's take this one as the first.

 

[weepiper]

Just a facetious comment related to the fact that its immigrants who will pay the next generation's pensions. Capitalism has us locked into immigration regardless of whether people like it or not. What's UKIP's answer to the demographics? Is that another question no-one's bothered to ask them?

I can help you with that one

http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.c...-less-immigration-and-more-breeding-1-3423128

 

[Favelado]

I can help you with that one

http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.c...-less-immigration-and-more-breeding-1-3423128

Breeding! That was my joke answer!

 

[weepiper]

Breeding! That was my joke answer!

Truth is stranger than fiction.

 

[DairyQueen]

Just a facetious comment related to the fact that its immigrants who will pay the next generation's pensions. Capitalism has us locked into immigration regardless of whether people like it or not. What's UKIP's answer to the demographics? Is that another question no-one's bothered to ask them?

Capitalism is all supply and demand... theory says individuals move to where they maximise their utility.

 

[J Ed]

I have changed Labour's platitudes on immigration. But I won't make false platitudes or platitude.

 

[DairyQueen]

I can help you with that one

http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.c...-less-immigration-and-more-breeding-1-3423128

An insight into the level of debate the new force of unionism espouses. I thought a No vote was bad, but Coburn talking about breeding? Is this the status quo? I blame the Borders... I heard things about folk from there...

 

[weepiper]

An insight into the level of debate the new force of unionism espouses. I thought a No vote was bad, but Coburn talking about breeding? Is this the status quo? I blame the Borders... I heard things about folk from there...

You can blame the Borders if you like... and Moray, and Dumfries and Galloway.

 

[DairyQueen]

You can blame the Borders if you like... and Moray, and Dumfries and Galloway.

What sort of punter from Falkirk votes UKIP?

 

[JTG]

What sort of punter from Falkirk votes UKIP?

Isn't there some kind of Orange/Unionist tradition in Falkirk or have I made that up?

 

[Mr Moose]

I wonder again if a 'yes' vote is more likely if Scots imagine the next Westminster Govt has a greater tinge of UK (i.e English flavoured) nationalism about it? And then what of the UK Election? Even more nationalism or a reaction against it?

 

[DairyQueen]

Isn't there some kind of Orange/Unionist tradition in Falkirk or have I made that up?

Not that immediately springs to mind... could be forgetting some new town outside Falkirk though.

 

[weepiper]

Isn't there some kind of Orange/Unionist tradition in Falkirk or have I made that up?

It's hoaching with them, same as much of central Scotland

http://www.falkirk.gov.uk/services/...nsing/civic_licensing/public_processions.aspx

 

[SpookyFrank]

Spooky, do you think my friend and his family over reacted with their fears for the future

Absolutely not.

 

[DairyQueen]

I wonder again if a 'yes' vote is more likely if Scots imagine the next Westminster Govt has a greater tinge of UK (i.e English flavoured) nationalism about it? And then what of the UK Election? Even more nationalism or a reaction against it?

Doubt they will have much of an impact, if I am honest. The more that Coburn speaks, the better for Yes it would seem though.

EDIT: post-referendum? Who knows. If it is a no, not sure what will happen. Some places could get pretty nasty. Unionism in Scotland is different from English patriotism.

 

[SpookyFrank]

bizarrely, ex pats get a vote here. Thats right, they spent the last decade living and working in Mombasa, but they still have a say in the polity they haven't lived in for ten years. Makes no sense

Why are British people always 'ex pats' as if that's somehow different from being an immigrant? They're just immigrants somewhere else.