Ukip - why are they gaining support?

[JTG]

It's hoaching with them, same as much of central Scotland

http://www.falkirk.gov.uk/services/...nsing/civic_licensing/public_processions.aspx

LOL indeed

 

[DotCommunist]

its just language dude we call them expatriate, bet the hosts call them 'el immigrant' or 'le incomer'

 

[Favelado]

Why are British people always 'ex pats' as if that's somehow different from being an immigrant? They're just immigrants somewhere else.

I always refer to myself as an immigrant here. Ex-pat has all sorts of dodgy connotations to me.

 

[butchersapron]

I always refer to myself as an immigrant here. Ex-pat has all sorts of dodgy connotations to me.

You might get mistaken for a cockney.

 

[JTG]

You might get mistaken for a cockney.

Or a Belgian/cockney/Welsh psycho full back

 

[Lea]

Why are British people always 'ex pats' as if that's somehow different from being an immigrant? They're just immigrants somewhere else.

I thought that ex pat was someone who gets transferred on a short term job contract so would not have immigrated to a place permanently.

 

[butchersapron]

Or a Belgian/cockney/Welsh psycho full back

Pat Van Den Hauwe?

 

[JTG]

Pat Van Den Hauwe?

The only Pat worth remebering

Apart from Nevin. But he wasn't as good as Psycho Pat

 

[DairyQueen]

I thought that ex pat was someone who gets transferred on a short term job contract so would not have immigrated to a place permanently.

Nah... they're UKIP voters who retire in Spain.

 

[butchersapron]

The only Pat worth remebering

Apart from Nevin. But he wasn't as good as Psycho Pat

He's got a new kids film out, psycho pat, i think it was called that.

 

[Favelado]

The only Pat worth remebering

Apart from Nevin. But he wasn't as good as Psycho Pat

Pat Nevin. Getting subbed so he could go and see the Cocteau Twins.

 

[JTG]

He's got a new kids film out, psycho pat, i think it was called that.

Psycho Pat and his black and white cat. Great memories

 

[JTG]

I've done a thread

 

[Awesome Wells]

Miliband is an opportunistic twat. Hope Labour fucking die.

I'd still rather then than this Tory nightmare.

 

[youngian]

Has anyone ever pinned Farage or UKIP down on exactly what they plan to do with the hundreds of thousands of EU citizens who have come and built lives in the UK in good faith? Would they deport them all, allow them all to claim citizenship, or will there be some kind of test or conditionality to make sure only people who are the right sort of people are allowed to stay?

As far as I know UKIP are never pinned down on these details. I assume all immigrants will go through some sort of visa application system. Lets say for example a farmer in UKIP friendly Lincolnshire doesn't get his strawberries picked this summer without his Baltic workforce, Tesco will go to Polish farmers for their stock and lots of assoctiated white English jobs are threatened; will these migrants workers get fast tracked? if yes will a minister have a veto in order to placate some foggy moaning from the locals. And as far as I know UKIP haven't any policy on how they would tighten up the present non-EU immigration system.

 

[brogdale]

Ah, interesting - i was going to post something about her new book on that hiden abode the other day but lost the link. Can't remember if it was an event or an article or vid or something.

Have you got access to the NLR to read the article? If not I could probably c&p and PM you with it.

 

[butchersapron]

Have you got access to the NLR to read the article? If not I could probably c&p and PM you with it.

That would be sterling work comrade. Ta.

 

[Awesome Wells]

I think their planned 'Australian style points system' would apply to all immigrants, european or otherwise.

 

[butchersapron]

You mean the 'Australian style points system' that labour already introduced at the end of the last decade?

 

[andysays]

I've just spoken to an acquaintance of mine, she is part of a big multi-racial family, she says they are 'terrified', (yes terrified) of what is happening in Europe, especially France, fear UKIP and see Farage as very dangerous, worried that the recent EU arrivals in their family will be kicked out, I think they may be over reacting, but I wonder what other such families feel, after all UKIP are getting numerous BEM votes.

I'm sure that when you tell her that she is stupid and moralistic for being terrified, and a clever man on the internet says the rise in support for UKIP is just like the Paris Commune she'll feel a lot better

 

[butchersapron]

 

[nessa239]

Because people are fed up with the main parties being a load of over-privileged twats who only have self-interest to heart. UKIP are both more down to earth and a protest vote. People just want to piss off the status quo as anarchy will get them jailed.

 

[ViolentPanda]

UKIP did far less well in most large urban areas.

Far better than the NSDAP you're fatuously comparing them to managed.

 

[ViolentPanda]

Amazing stuff - yesterday UKIP wasn't gaining support at all. Today it's 1933.

The Night of the Long Knives has obviously passed us by, without us noticing it.

 

[ViolentPanda]

wise words?

It's always wise to abjure singing Kumbaya.

 

[ViolentPanda]

Miliband is an opportunistic twat. Hope Labour fucking die.

Not until they dance the Tyburn Jig, though.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Far better than the NSDAP you're fatuously comparing them to managed.

Not at all, if you look at the figures. And it's only fatuous if you don't understand the point of the comparison, which was intended to counter an idea I think is horribly flawed and misguided - namely that the rise of right-nationalists in the UK and elsewhere might be something to be cheered.

 

[brogdale]

Staines has something on a tory pow-wow regarding the UKIP threat at Chequers this am.

George Osborne has revealed that the Tories held a crisis summit at Chequers this morning on how to deal with the UKIP threat. Both government and party sources refuse to discuss attendees or indeed what was on the agenda. Leaving a breakfast event hosted at No.11 for alumni of Magdalen College, Oxford, the Chancellor explained his premature exit by telling attendees he was taking the unusual step of going to the PM’s official countryside residence in the middle of the week for the meeting.

 

[Wilf]

Maybe they'll counter Farage's pint in hand publicity shots with pictures of George Osborne doing coke.

 

[DotCommunist]

Maybe they'll counter Farage's pint in hand publicity shots with pictures of George Osborne doing coke.

and romping with sex workers obvs.