Turkey, ISIS, Kurds and Syria

[Patteran]

Turkish citizens advised to leave Iraq as troops set up bases in the KRG & near Mosul & ignore Baghdad order to depart. Turkish government moving on Mosul, or just repositioning? Speculation online that AKP are looking to occupy Mosul, claim it as Turkish in any upcoming Iraq/Syria partition. Plan B, now that their preferred choice of neighbour, IS, have blown their chance of running the new Sunni statelet, or speculative twitter nonsense?

 

[binka]

Speculation online that AKP are looking to occupy Mosul, claim it as Turkish in any upcoming Iraq/Syria partition.

it's 80 miles from the Turkish border - is that realistic?

 

[Patteran]

it's 80 miles from the Turkish border - is that realistic?

Dunno. It's closer to the zone of Turkish military influence than Baghdad military influence - and was Turkish/Ottoman ruled for 400 years.

 

[yield]

Turkish citizens advised to leave Iraq as troops set up bases in the KRG & near Mosul & ignore Baghdad order to depart. Turkish government moving on Mosul, or just repositioning? Speculation online that AKP are looking to occupy Mosul, claim it as Turkish in any upcoming Iraq/Syria partition. Plan B, now that their preferred choice of neighbour, IS, have blown their chance of running the new Sunni statelet, or speculative twitter nonsense?

New Turkish bases in KRG? Anyone know how many troops Turkey has sent to Iraq?

Most of the news says there's one battalion with artillery & aircraft? ISIS didn't need that much to take Mosul?

 

[alfajobrob]

Dya reckon ISIS do kebabs>?

 

[alfajobrob]

What is there policy on Morleys Fried Chicken?

It's a minefield.

 

[Patteran]

New Turkish bases in KRG? Anyone know how many troops Turkey has sent to Iraq?

Most of the news says there's one battalion with artillery & aircraft? ISIS didn't need that much to take Mosul?

Numbers are unsurprisingly vague - supposedly training Peshmerga & Iraqi Sunni militias. Significant part seems to be the belligerent stand-off with Abadi - & suggestions that Abadi could ask Putin for assistance. Erdogan insists he's protecting Iraqi Sunnis - which is exactly what militarists tend to say before invading neighbours.

 

[ViolentPanda]

it's 80 miles from the Turkish border - is that realistic?

Depends on how prepared they are to imitate the Soviets in Afghanistan, and heavy-lift or convoy most of their requirements into Mosul. 80 miles is a long supply line when someone with a SAM might be waiting for your supply planes,and his mates with RPGs might be lining the roads.

 

[butchersapron]

KRG/Turkey thing to apply pressure on baghdad really. See Erdogan demanding iraqi central govt pay wages of KRG public workers after they were cut off. Militarily i can't see this meaning a single thing but give erdogan the opp to post as defender of sunni muslims (part of the wider regional conflict with saudi). Barzani and talabani theives get the go-ahead to continue smuggling of all types - and they might just get a bonus if Iraq pays up.

 

[teqniq]

Turkey sends tanks on to streets of Kurdish cities

Turkey's armed forces have sent military vehicles, including tanks, into civilian areas in the predominantly Kurdish southeast of the country, according to photographs published on Wednesday.

In one video shared on social media by Faruk Encu, a Turkish tank can be seen in the Yenisehir district of Silopi, in Sirnak province...

 

[not-bono-ever]

not directly related but worth mentioning - taliban special forces at war with IS

Why Taliban special forces are fighting Islamic State - BBC News

 

[teqniq]

 

[teqniq]

Curfews, Military Ops, and Resistance: Eastern Turkey under Siege as Kurdish Youth Rebel

 

[butchersapron]

As planned/happened/normalised over last two months. It feels like the past rather than the future.

 

[teqniq]

Yes. Unfortunately it seems you and the guy whose blog you linked in post #396 may have been onto something.

 

[frogwoman]

Over '100 dead' as Turkey presses major offensive against PKK


Wtf.

 

[frogwoman]

Turkey’s Kurdish Predicament | University of Oxford Podcasts - Audio and Video Lectures

 

[dweller]

pretty grim viewing :-(

Police camera footage of an incident in which a Turkish woman was shot and killed during an operation at her family’s home has been included in the file of a case opened into special operation police officer Y.M.
Dilek Doğan was shot at her home in Sarıyer on Oct. 18 during a police raid, succumbing to her injuries on Oct. 25.
The footage shows police officers with balaclavas conducting a search of the Doğan residence. Although the shooting is not shown, arguments are heard in the background in the video. A man is heard yelling, “What did I tell you!” to which a woman -- presumably Dilek -- responds, “What are you doing?” Then, a shot is heard and chaos ensues. Dilek's mother is seen losing control and screaming. A man, presumed to be Dilek's brother, enters in a fit of rage and punches a police officer. The police officers then shout orders to handcuff the man.


http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/fo...file-.aspx?PageID=238&NID=92784&NewsCatID=509

and

Footage shows moments of shooting of young woman during police raid

 

[not-bono-ever]

Kicking off in Instanbul today

Turkish police teargas crowds protesting military action against Kurdish rebels

 

[frogwoman]

Turkey Kills at Least 110 Kurdish PKK Fighters in Six Days

 

[frogwoman]

Over 100 Kurdish fighters killed in Turkish operation

they're not all "fighters" are they? saw some horrific pictures of a pregnant woman who was shot

 

[teqniq]

Turkey should be kicked out of nato but I know this is unlikely to put it mildly.

 

[frogwoman]

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/23/world/europe/turkey-border-refugees.html

article here about turkey's border policy

 

[frogwoman]

Erdoğan vows Kurdish rebels 'will be buried in trenches they have dug'

 

[TomUS]

Good for them.

Anonymous has launched a cyberwar with Turkey, accusing it of supporting Islamic State.

The 'hacktivist' collective posted a video message warning Turkish president Recep Tayyip Erdoğan of future attacks to the country's banks, airports and government sites.

Last week, at least 400,000 websites were affected by a Distributed Denial of Service (DDoS) attack when servers were overloaded with traffic.

Anonymous Declares War On Turkey Over Alleged Support For Islamic State

 

[gawkrodger]

Plenty of reports online that the SDF/YPG have taken the Tishrin Dam and crossed to the Western banks of the Euphrates!

 

[Geri]

Plenty of reports online that the SDF/YPG have taken the Tishrin Dam and crossed to the Western banks of the Euphrates!

Yes they have, which means that Kobane can have fresh water and electricity.

Great news.

 

[J Ed]

Plenty of reports online that the SDF/YPG have taken the Tishrin Dam and crossed to the Western banks of the Euphrates!

A previously announced 'red line' for Turkey has been crossed then.

 

[Jeremiah18.17]

Guardian have published this from journalist jailed for revealing Erdogan's gun running - I revealed the truth about President Erdogan and Syria. For that, he had me jailed | Can Dündar
Mention underneath of assassinations of anti Daesh reporters and situation in SE Turkey, amongst usual stuff from Putinbots, AKP trolls, conspiraloons, astroturfers etc.

 

[Patteran]

A previously announced 'red line' for Turkey has been crossed then.

YPG spokesman Polat Can supposedly posted this pic of himself looking for the red line.




Suspicion that AKP has responded by flooding villages along the Euphrates, using the Ataturk Dam. Story here.