tube party on june 1st?

[winjer]

I'd say a jail sentence for inciting a riot is more fitting.

Yet another lie. Where was this alleged riot?

 

[Citizen66]

Sure. But IME fizzy pop doesn't make people volatile in a space where most folk don't expect to have to deal with that kind of behaviour. You expect beer smells, sticky carpets, pissed people, shabby loos and the odd fight in bars etc. Not on transport.

So necking a tin of fosters between farringdon and kings cross dramatically changes otherwise sane people into deranged nutters?

Do you realise how silly that sounds?

And why do they sell such substances on planes and other train services if it has such a dramatic effect on the human psyche?

 

[lights.out.london]

What about a public space like a park? And what evidence do you have that this group of people is so large that you don't need to quantify it?

Where I live the parks are controlled drinking zones, IIRC. Certainly the streets are.

 

[lights.out.london]

So necking a tin of fosters between farringdon and kings cross dramatically changes otherwise sane people into deranged nutters?

Do you realise how silly that sounds?

And why do they sell such substances on planes and other train services if it has such a dramatic effect on the human psyche?

Aw, c'mon. You're taking it to the nth degree and stretching it till it snaps!

 

[lights.out.london]

Quote of the day

A girl slurs to me: "I am going to stand by the Cornish pasty shop. Nothing bad can happen next to a Cornish pasty shop."

 

[Citizen66]

Aw, c'mon. You're taking it to the nth degree and stretching it till it snaps!

No, that's what you are doing.

I haven't seen a fight in a bar for years and I don't think I've ever seen one on a tube train.

You're being disingenuous in order to be self-righteous.

 

[lights.out.london]

No, that's what you are doing.

I haven't seen a fight in a bar for years and I don't think I've ever seen one on a tube train.

You're being disingenuous in order to be self-righteous.

No. Not self-righteous. I don't see the need for people to drink booze (a drug) on London transport. Drink and be merry, but in an appropriate space.

The saddest thing about the whole shooting match? Boris can now say "I told you so."

 

[Citizen66]

No. Not self-righteous. I don't see the need for people to drink booze (a drug) on London transport. Drink and be merry, but in an appropriate space.

It's a public space. The majority of violent incidents on public transport are by kids on the rob, not someone having a tinny who's on their way to a concert/party or whatever.

Do you propose that they ban it on planes and all trains now too?

Have you flown on a plane? How did you cope with all the drinking going on around you?

Have you drank on a plane? I hope not because it's game, set and match to me if you have!

(waits for the fibs...)

 

[winjer]

The fault was my own, I should have pulled my finger out and organised the protest I was on about when I started this thread.

But how would you practically have avoided it becoming just the same as Saturday night?

 

[lights.out.london]

It's a public space. The majority of violent incidents on public transport are by kids on the rob, not someone having a tinny who's on their way to a concert/party or whatever.

Do you propose that they ban it on planes and all trains now too?

Have you flown on a plane? How did you cope with all the drinking going on around you?

Have you drank on a plane? I hope not because it's game, set and match to me if you have!

(waits for the fibs...)

I don't drink.

 

[winjer]

Where I live the parks are controlled drinking zones, IIRC.

Sounds horrible.

 

[Citizen66]

I don't drink.

Well that explains everything then.

Cheers.

Have you flown on a plane?

 

[rutabowa]

I don't see the need for people to drink booze (a drug) on London transport.

there's "no need" to do a lot of things that are fun.

there's "no need" to listen to music, or to read, or to... exchange a pleasantry with a loved one, or a joke with a friend. there's "no need" to dress in anything but a suit, etc etc.

 

[bluestreak]

I don't drink.

Perhaps that influences your feelings here? In the same way that I would love to ban eating meat on the tube cos of how it makes me feel, I'm aware that actually people eating it are exercising a right that I'm not comfortable with due to the same sort of disgust that you prolly feel at the notion of alcohol, IYSWIM?

 

[ajdown]

Lex talionis, dude. That's a bit harsh, eh?

One or two high profile punishments will put a lot of people off of organising similarly stupid, disrupting, and now illegal, events in the future.

 

[winjer]

Hmmmm im just trying to trail back this thread to find out what actually happened..I heard they just shut down the line after a while or something but I thought that was pretty inevitable with 10000 people possibly attending and it being splashed all over the papers before the event..it's obviously a pretty dangerous place to have a party.

In short: lots of parties on various tube lines, the larger ones ended by police emptying trains and closing stations. Party on the concourse at Liverpool St from 9pm, c1000 people, with sound system for about an hour, eventually moved out of the station when sufficient police present (40-50) around 11:30pm.

 

[lights.out.london]

Well that explains everything then.

Cheers.

Have you flown on a plane?

rotflmao - no ... I flap my fucking arms, mate! Lmao!

I think I'm missing the point as to why people are so upset at the ban? I do love how passionate Urbanites get about stuff. No kidding.

@Bluestreak - my missus is a drinker. I threw her over my shoulder and put her to bed at the weekend. I have no issues with others drinking, despite my inability to drink like a gentleman. I take your point, though, in a general way.

 

[cesare]

One or two high profile punishments will put a lot of people off of organising similarly stupid, disrupting, and now illegal, events in the future.

It's not illegal yet (the drinking)

 

[nosos]

One or two high profile punishments will put a lot of people off of organising similarly stupid, disrupting, and now illegal, events in the future.

But drinking on the tube isn't actually illegal yet....

That's what one of the manifold reasons why this ban is an insanely transpart piece of media driven politics.

 

[Citizen66]

rotflmao - no ... I flap my fucking arms, mate! Lmao!

Well how on earth did you cope with all the drinking and subsequent fighting in such a confined space?

 

[lights.out.london]

Well how on earth did you cope with all the drinking and subsequent fighting in such a confined space?

I flew in the undercarriage.

 

[Nixon]

i disagree strongly. it happens EVERY night to some degree and weekends are worse.

people don't organise to have fucking parties on the tube every day or every weekend..to some degree,but not to this degree which is the point.it's not as excessive as this,where as some arse organised 10000 people to do it all at once on on tube line,which is stupid.they might consume alcohol on public transport/stations,en route somewhere,but i think it's a bit of an overstatement to say that hundreds of people intentionally congregate on the tube/public transport SPECIFICALLY to get pissed and effectively "party" ON public transport at the weekends..that's silly.

 

[Citizen66]

I flew in the undercarriage.

You're being witty all of a sudden because you know I've got you by the bollocks sunshine...

 

[rutabowa]

I think I'm missing the point as to why people are so upset at the ban? I do love how passionate Urbanites get about stuff. No kidding.

it is not so much the law itself (it won't affect me a great deal) as that it is the 1st example of boris johnson introducing arguably pointless laws without any research... if he is going to start legislating against things he feels are morally bad without any regard for what anyone else thinks then this could be the start of a fairly horrible city. he doesn't like gays does he? i guess gay public displays of affection might be next for teh chop (i'm exaggerating to show my point. hopefully)

 

[bluestreak]

@Bluestreak - my missus is a drinker. I threw her over my shoulder and put her to bed at the weekend. I have no issues with others drinking, despite my inability to drink like a gentleman. I take your point, though, in a general way.

Fair dos, I was worried you might take that as an attack rather than an observation.

 

[ajdown]

It's not illegal yet (the drinking)

Interesting. So why is everyone calling it a 'ban' instead of a 'polite request not to'?

 

[lights.out.london]

You're being witty all of a sudden because you know I've got you by the bollocks sunshine...

No. Not at all. It's just rehashing more of the same from both sides.

Perhaps if I understood why people believe they ought to be allowed to drink in non-licenced/controlled environments, I might be able to see your PoV. But I just don't get it - and I'm not being deliberately obtuse.

 

[Stobart Stopper]

Just seen the middle page pic in the Evening Standard and I have to say that they all look like a bunch of pissed-up middle class Yuppies, mostly white as well. Just like the sort who go to Glastonbury. No normal people to be seen IMO.

 

[cesare]

Interesting. So why is everyone calling it a 'ban' instead of a 'polite request not to'?

Because it makes him look more powerful for his first 'quick win'. PR exercise.

 

[Onket]

Just seen the middle page pic in the Evening Standard and I have to say that they all look like a bunch of pissed-up middle class Yuppies, mostly white as well. Just like the sort who go to Glastonbury. No normal people to be seen IMO.

Bloody hell!