Too late for a PGCE application?

[Steel Icarus]

Besides, a couple of years of teaching might very well inform what you do an MA on.

 

[maomao]

Ah, I get you. But TBH I think you should be aiming to be a teacher rather than a head of year or whatever before you've even started. It might well be a sensible idea, but it doesn't sit well with me.

It wouldn't be out of career ambition! Otherwise I'd do the MEd that I'll have some credits towards at the end of this. It would be because I do feel slightly behind on some of the literature elements of the syllabus and I think a teacher should be some sort of authority on their subject. As well as allowing me to do more childcare while my wife was on a busy PGCE year and just giving me an extra year of my life to be a student which is a fabulous privilege.

If it was some sort of subliminal professional ambition it would be the first time it's showed itself in 46 years of being me! It's useful to have it pointed out that it might be interpreted as that though.

 

[scifisam]

It wouldn't be out of career ambition! Otherwise I'd do the MEd that I'll have some credits towards at the end of this. It would be because I do feel slightly behind on some of the literature elements of the syllabus and I think a teacher should be some sort of authority on their subject. As well as allowing me to do more childcare while my wife was on a busy PGCE year and just giving me an extra year of my life to be a student which is a fabulous privilege.

If it was some sort of subliminal professional ambition it would be the first time it's showed itself in 46 years of being me! It's useful to have it pointed out that it might be interpreted as that though.

You'll have credits towards an MEd??

Sorry if it seemed in a way it wasn't intended. TBH, it's partly because at UEL there was a really strong male bias for leading male teachers on the PGCE course towards management positions, and it's a bit of a thing in teaching in general.

 

[maomao]

You'll have credits towards an MEd??

That's what I was told. The two level 7 academic units add up to 60 credits and could be used towards a relevant MA or MEd. It was in a recorded lecture by the course leader so I could check but when I heard it it sounded like it applied to all PGCEs or at least UEL ones.

Sorry if it seemed in a way it wasn't intended. TBH, it's partly because at UEL there was a really strong male bias for leading male teachers on the PGCE course towards management positions, and it's a bit of a thing in teaching in general.

I can imagine tbh and I'm sorry if I was laughing off my male privilege but it would be very unlike me and I'm still so nervous about the job itself that the idea that I was going for promotion was a bit funny.

 

[scifisam]

That's what I was told. The two level 7 academic units add up to 60 credits and could be used towards a relevant MA or MEd. It was in a recorded lecture by the course leader so I could check but when I heard it it sounded like it applied to all PGCEs or at least UEL ones.

Huh, I guess it could apply towards an MEd. We definitely weren't told that, though.

I can imagine tbh and I'm sorry if I was laughing off my male privilege but it would be very unlike me and I'm still so nervous about the job itself that the idea that I was going for promotion was a bit funny.

I don't think you were laughing it off, just not noticing it, because that's how it happens. And you'll probably be a good person to have a management position, anyway.

It's not like there are no women as head of dept - there are tons of them. But compared to the women in teaching, it's different. And I think at UEL it was particularly noticeable.

 

[spanglechick]

There were no bursaries for any subjects back when I did my pgce. No tuition fees either, but rent, food and everything else had to be self-funded.

 

[chilango]

Besides, a couple of years of teaching might very well inform what you do an MA on.

...and what you don't do it on.

 

[chilango]

That's what I was told. The two level 7 academic units add up to 60 credits and could be used towards a relevant MA or MEd. It was in a recorded lecture by the course leader so I could check but when I heard it it sounded like it applied to all PGCEs or at least UEL ones.



I can imagine tbh and I'm sorry if I was laughing off my male privilege but it would be very unlike me and I'm still so nervous about the job itself that the idea that I was going for promotion was a bit funny.

If some of your PGCE credits count towards a Master's (I think MAs as well at least here) they do expire so don't leave it too long. Also if your an is to do it one year f/t then that would normally assume you'd have no credits as far as the timings go, so you maybe a term with not much to do?

I loved my MA. P/t was a real struggle though and accidentally getting to do the dissertation stage f/t was a revelation.

At the same time the more I've studied the more I wanted to move away from school teaching!

Another thing to note is that some school will help pay your fees if you're doing a Master's p/t. They may we'll try and dictate your content in return though.

 

[Mation]

They are, and the timescale of bursary payments means you can't use them to pay fees anyway. I've got a fees-only loan.

You'd think paying the fees directly and reducing the bursaries accordingly would be a more sane approach to this but tbh I'd rather have more cash now and stick the fees on the never-never.

I was able to use my bursary to pay my fees. Both were monthly.

 

[maomao]

Well I finally got a placement but they've sent me to Southend. :|

Was just grateful to be getting on with the course so haven't quibbled about the travel money. Yet.

 

[equationgirl]

My brother got sent to a very under-resourced school during his training, where the admin team told him he had to pay for his own photocopying for classes and there were so few students that had any equipment he ended up buying rulers, protractors, compasses etc in bulk and raiding the tubs of pencils we had in the house to take in, so that everyone had the equipment to do that day's lesson.

So check what the schoo or uni will pay for and what you might have to supply would be my advice.

 

[scifisam]

Well I finally got a placement but they've sent me to Southend. :|

Was just grateful to be getting on with the course so haven't quibbled about the travel money. Yet.

The exact same thing happened to one of the people on my course. She was on the verge of quitting; they gave her money from the hardship fund, and made sure her second placement was much closer to home. Though I guess it was slightly different, as our bursaries were far lower. She also negotiated a slightly later starting time, as did I on a placement that would have required childcare from 5.30am (basically missing the morning meetings except for Mondays).

 

[maomao]

The exact same thing happened to one of the people on my course. She was on the verge of quitting; they gave her money from the hardship fund, and made sure her second placement was much closer to home. Though I guess it was slightly different, as our bursaries were far lower. She also negotiated a slightly later starting time, as did I on a placement that would have required childcare from 5.30am (basically missing the morning meetings except for Mondays).

It's all good. It's only 40-odd minutes on the train (it's a couple of stops before Southend proper) and I'm pretty sure I can get a student railcard. Should cost less than a job or placement in Zone 1 would. And there's no-one on the course lives nearer than me. There's still 8 people in my class, and dozens more in other classes, who don't have placements at all because the uni went mad taking just about anyone (as proved by my presence) to get as much dosh as they could when it was clear covid was going to cause issues. I'm just happy to have something to do.

 

[maomao]

Well, 2 years, 2 weeks and a whole lifetime's worth of shit later my final essay has just passed and I have been told I should have QTS and a PGCE by the end of the month. I'm still working in Essex, though not at the school where I did my first placement, and have just signed up for another year of working far too hard and being unnappreciated.

 

[Shippou-Sensei]

Welcome to the club.

Relax as much as you can while you have the time.

 

[Sue]

Well, 2 years, 2 weeks and a whole lifetime's worth of shit later my final essay has just passed and I have been told I should have QTS and a PGCE by the end of the month. I'm still working in Essex, though not at the school where I did my first placement, and have just signed up for another year of working far too hard and being unnappreciated.

Congratulations, maomao. What an achievement!

 

[AnnO'Neemus]

Well, 2 years, 2 weeks and a whole lifetime's worth of shit later my final essay has just passed and I have been told I should have QTS and a PGCE by the end of the month. I'm still working in Essex, though not at the school where I did my first placement, and have just signed up for another year of working far too hard and being unnappreciated.

Congratulations!

 

[Nikkormat]

Congratulations maomao. I went a slightly different route, but ultimately it was one of the best things I've ever done.

 

[Red Cat]

Well, 2 years, 2 weeks and a whole lifetime's worth of shit later my final essay has just passed and I have been told I should have QTS and a PGCE by the end of the month. I'm still working in Essex, though not at the school where I did my first placement, and have just signed up for another year of working far too hard and being unnappreciated.

That's a huge achievement maomao, congratulations.

 

[equationgirl]

You did it maomao !!!!! Brilliant news!! Well done you x

 

[Edie]

Well, 2 years, 2 weeks and a whole lifetime's worth of shit later my final essay has just passed and I have been told I should have QTS and a PGCE by the end of the month. I'm still working in Essex, though not at the school where I did my first placement, and have just signed up for another year of working far too hard and being unnappreciated.

Wow bloody well done that’s little short of a miracle with everything your family has been through. Congratulations!

 

[scifisam]

Blood well done maomao!

 

[Plumdaff]

Incredible achievement maomao .Well done!

 

[A380]

Well done!

 

[Steel Icarus]

Wonderful news - well done. You should allow yourself a little pride