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Tommy Robinson, the court case and (guffaw) 'free speech'

Those links are about specific things that Quilliam has published and specific things it has done or that Mr Nawaz has said. It's not hating him.

I haven't shared anything from the SPLC. That's a big settlement.
 
Well I think it would be pretty much impossible to satirise it. I think in five years time if you go back and read an article like that you might see it rather differently.
 

See. This is so far off reality I don’t even know the words, it just seems to me to be so, well, warped is the best word I can think of. Mental gymnastics... The Times didn’t “create” Asian grooming gangs, the Times didn’t create anything. The Times reported the facts about what was actually happening and did nothing to cause anything that was happening to happen. In fact, I would say that the Times reporting this is a perfect example of a free press doing exactly what a free press are supposed to be doing, informing the public, speaking truth to power and holding those in power to account. Here is a short video of the reporter who wrote these stories talking about what he did and how he came to do it watch that and tell me the Times created anything.
 
You're picking up in the headline - completely over literally - and ignoring the substance of the article.

Norfolk has subsequently gone on to create stuff around Muslims:

Complaint upheld over Times story about girl fostered by Muslims

The linked article includes plenty of actual material that explains what it thinks the Times did. As you have done with all the previous links you just throw your hands up and start throwing shocked insults around. I hope if anyone is following this they'll read the links and make up their own minds.
 
“I hope if anyone is following this they'll read the links and make up their own minds.”

I hope so too. I hope people read the thread, watch the Andrew Norfolk video, read the links you kindly provided and then make up their own minds. But saying that I’m pretty sure I know what the average person would make of it all if they choose to invest the time and effort to do just that. It’s unlikely that many people will though. But if anyone comes across this site by accident and sees this I hope they register and tell us their thoughts...
 
and in fighting about the maastricht treaty has nothing to do with this shit show .


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:) I know. And I meant that to Rsf, who is plainly here recruiting and might as well just post whatever "join now" or "donate here" link they have saved up. . .

Just decided to respond to this. I’m not recruiting for anything and have no intention of asking anyone here for anything. My ‘agenda’ if you could call it that, I.e, what I would actually like to see happening is I would like to see the UK adopt something like a USA style first amendment guaranteeing freedom of speech in this country. I would like to see the political left and right wings treated in exactly the same way by the authorities as I believe everyone should be equal before the law and believe we should have have a truly non-political police force and an impartial criminal justice system. As the woman about four minutes into the bbc news night report that someone linked to earlier said it’s pretty clear that it is one rule for one group and another rule for others in practice. Despite being on the political left for years I now regard the Labour Party as a pretty despicable, anti working class party and don’t think much more of the tories or Lib Dem’s. I want to make working class people like me aware that labour are filled top to bottom with champagne socialists who despise the working class and think they are thick and that socialism doesn’t work anyway (a poster here already sussed this ‘agenda’ of mine). I want the powers that be to face up to the grooming gang scandals and not just prosecute those who did it but also hold those who allowed it to go on to account because the entire thing sickens me and I’m really really angry about it. I’m a father myself and to think that if something happened to make my family vulnerable that the authorities could allow that to happen to my child makes me so angry I don’t even know how to put it into words. I believe the fact these things are not being done is why Tommy Robinson is now as prominent as he is and why his support is growing. Oh and I’d also like it if the far left could not behave like a bunch of fascist thugs and attempt to shutdown debates and hustings and such like but I doubt there is much chance of that one.

So yeah, thinking about it, Tommy Robinson doesn’t come across as a particularly pleasant chap at times (certainly some of his past isn’t exactly endearing), sure he broke the law and is a criminal if me saying that makes anyone feel any better, but as Steve Bannon was alleged to have said he’s better than all our establishment elites put together to put it a bit more politely.
 
Just decided to respond to this. I’m not recruiting for anything and have no intention of asking anyone here for anything. My ‘agenda’ if you could call it that, I.e, what I would actually like to see happening is I would like to see the UK adopt something like a USA style first amendment guaranteeing freedom of speech in this country. I would like to see the political left and right wings treated in exactly the same way by the authorities as I believe everyone should be equal before the law and believe we should have have a truly non-political police force and an impartial criminal justice system. As the woman about four minutes into the bbc news night report that someone linked to earlier said it’s pretty clear that it is one rule for one group and another rule for others in practice. Despite being on the political left for years I now regard the Labour Party as a pretty despicable, anti working class party and don’t think much more of the tories or Lib Dem’s. I want to make working class people like me aware that labour are filled top to bottom with champagne socialists who despise the working class and think they are thick and that socialism doesn’t work anyway (a poster here already sussed this ‘agenda’ of mine). I want the powers that be to face up to the grooming gang scandals and not just prosecute those who did it but also hold those who allowed it to go on to account because the entire thing sickens me and I’m really really angry about it. I’m a father myself and to think that if something happened to make my family vulnerable that the authorities could allow that to happen to my child makes me so angry I don’t even know how to put it into words. I believe the fact these things are not being done is why Tommy Robinson is now as prominent as he is and why his support is growing. Oh and I’d also like it if the far left could not behave like a bunch of fascist thugs and attempt to shutdown debates and hustings and such like but I doubt there is much chance of that one.

So yeah, thinking about it, Tommy Robinson doesn’t come across as a particularly pleasant chap at times (certainly some of his past isn’t exactly endearing), sure he broke the law and is a criminal if me saying that makes anyone feel any better, but as Steve Bannon was alleged to have said he’s better than all our establishment elites put together to put it a bit more politely.

Steve fucking Bannon, now
 
Just decided to respond to this. I’m not recruiting for anything and have no intention of asking anyone here for anything. My ‘agenda’ if you could call it that, I.e, what I would actually like to see happening is I would like to see the UK adopt something like a USA style first amendment guaranteeing freedom of speech in this country. I would like to see the political left and right wings treated in exactly the same way by the authorities as I believe everyone should be equal before the law and believe we should have have a truly non-political police force and an impartial criminal justice system. As the woman about four minutes into the bbc news night report that someone linked to earlier said it’s pretty clear that it is one rule for one group and another rule for others in practice. Despite being on the political left for years I now regard the Labour Party as a pretty despicable, anti working class party and don’t think much more of the tories or Lib Dem’s. I want to make working class people like me aware that labour are filled top to bottom with champagne socialists who despise the working class and think they are thick and that socialism doesn’t work anyway (a poster here already sussed this ‘agenda’ of mine). I want the powers that be to face up to the grooming gang scandals and not just prosecute those who did it but also hold those who allowed it to go on to account because the entire thing sickens me and I’m really really angry about it. I’m a father myself and to think that if something happened to make my family vulnerable that the authorities could allow that to happen to my child makes me so angry I don’t even know how to put it into words. I believe the fact these things are not being done is why Tommy Robinson is now as prominent as he is and why his support is growing. Oh and I’d also like it if the far left could not behave like a bunch of fascist thugs and attempt to shutdown debates and hustings and such like but I doubt there is much chance of that one.

So yeah, thinking about it, Tommy Robinson doesn’t come across as a particularly pleasant chap at times (certainly some of his past isn’t exactly endearing), sure he broke the law and is a criminal if me saying that makes anyone feel any better, but as Steve Bannon was alleged to have said he’s better than all our establishment elites put together to put it a bit more politely.

End London rule, fella.
 
Steve fucking Bannon, now
Yes. Steve is alleged to have said this. Although I won’t say it the way he did as I try not to speak rudely like that. But he is basically right. But is that all you have got? Dismiss everything in a pavilion type response when you read a trigger name? Are you sure you don’t want even try debating? Your side of the debate rarely do to be honest and this fills me with confidence that the populist and nationalist wave that is sweeping the West is unstoppable. Margaret Thatcher used to say she liked it when her political opponents insulted her because she knew they had nothing left and she’d won we they resorted to that. In the end her own party had to stop her, she never ever lost an election to the left.
 
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