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Tommy Robinson is a horrible man

Bugger!

Hope Not Hate haven't picked up on that yet then..


Actually, maybe not. The I article says


If one cannot trust a statement published by the Mail-owned i, quoting something said on Twitter by someone close to the convicted fraudster, drug dealer, thief, thug and fabricator Stephen Yaxley-Lennon - a football hooligan so confused about the value of truth that he stole the identity of a better-liked football hooligan - then tell me, what can one trust?
 
Can't make it all the way down to London tomorrow, but good luck to anyone going. (And to the UVW picket in the morning if anyone's doing that.)
For what it's worth, latest from the anti-fascist/migrant worker bloc organising for tomorrow:

On Saturday Oct 26th - our movements will hit the streets in the defence of migrants, asylum seekers, workers, muslims and jews that are in the firing line due to the growing far-right shifts we have seen happening.

On Saturday, their movement of racists, extremists and conspiracists are taking to the streets to follow their leader, "Tommy Robinson", and a host of other far-right racist influencers, seeking to exploit the divisions and unease that our society is facing, and to capitalise on the vulnerable and misinformed, in an attempt to gain power and influence on our how we live our lives.

Their movement is not a movement from below, though they may attract many working class people, they are funded and amplified through international far-right neoliberal capitalist institutions, tech- billionaire oligarchs, and unapologetic fascists politicians. Riding off decades of vilification against muslims and migrants, spread through mainstream media channels that have bombarded millions of people with distorted and false views in order to further divide society into the compliant mess we are in now.

Those that benefit from this division are those at the top, the billionaires that seek to have political influence on maintaining their power in an ever insecure world, who seek to grow right-wing populous movements in order to use them. The likes of "Tommy Robinson" and the other clowns are useful idiots whilst ordinary people - rightfully concerned with the state of the world and their communities are led into fighting and blaming the wrong people.

On Saturday, we are for the first time aiming to bring our movements together, and seek to develop real alternatives and power to not only take on the far-right but also the boss class, that manipulate and dominate our lives on a daily basis.

Join us, and lets build a world free from the racist lies and division, for effective powerful direct action and joy, to improve everyones lives together.

(As a union nerd, mildly interested that Birkbeck Unison and Brighton Unite seem to have managed to endorse a non-SUTR action, but I suppose that's maybe a side conversation.)
 
Good question. One thing that the "grifting moron herder" can be certain of is that it will increase donations from the herd.
Which actually is what his aim is rather than build a movement that takes on the elites or sorts out any of the issues he raises . The goal of his Manifesto , the demos, stunts 'documentaries' and his 'exposures' is to sell brand Tommy and generate income. The fact that he got caught out in the courts is just a risk he has to take. Even the threat of incarceration is something that can be monetised.
 
There are Saturday courts , there is normally one open per district and then there are direct applications to judges
Well, yeah, but are Saturday courts for routine-ish cases though?

Of course I know that the justice system doesn't operate neatly and exclusively Monday to Friday. I mean, yeah, there were the special courts for the riots, as a well-publicised example. But generally speaking, aren't out of 'normal' working hours courts only for emergencies, though? For example, family court/urgent care proceedings, injunctions of various kinds, urgent medical/court of protection type issues, serious crime?

While he's being held under terrorism legislation, would a bail hearing be considered 'urgent' and something that warranted going before a judge on a Saturday? Don't people who are detained normally have to wait until Monday? Isn't it usually the case that locking someone up is considered urgent, but releasing them is done in the justice system's sweet time?

(I don't know the ins and outs, my legal knowledge is mostly more civil law stuff, rather than criminal.)
 
Which actually is what his aim is rather than build a movement that takes on the elites or sorts out any of the issues he raises . The goal of his Manifesto , the demos, stunts 'documentaries' and his 'exposures' is to sell brand Tommy and generate income. The fact that he got caught out in the courts is just a risk he has to take. Even the threat of incarceration is something that can be monetised.
Yep. 'Political prisoner,' innit.
 
Well, yeah, but are Saturday courts for routine-ish cases though?

Of course I know that the justice system doesn't operate neatly and exclusively Monday to Friday. I mean, yeah, there were the special courts for the riots, as a well-publicised example. But generally speaking, aren't out of 'normal' working hours courts only for emergencies, though? For example, family court/urgent care proceedings, injunctions of various kinds, urgent medical/court of protection type issues, serious crime?

While he's being held under terrorism legislation, would a bail hearing be considered 'urgent' and something that warranted going before a judge on a Saturday? Don't people who are detained normally have to wait until Monday? Isn't it usually the case that locking someone up is considered urgent, but releasing them is done in the justice system's sweet time?

(I don't know the ins and outs, my legal knowledge is mostly more civil law stuff, rather than criminal.)
Things might have changed however criminal courts did operate on Saturday mornings but only for remand cases. Btw he isn't being held under Terrorism legislation he was bailed for that, it's the contempt of Court issue that he has been detained for.
 
Things might have changed however criminal courts did operate on Saturday mornings but only for remand cases. Btw he isn't being held under Terrorism legislation he was bailed for that, it's the contempt of Court issue that he has been detained for.
Ah, right, thanks. I read a Guardian article from about 5-6pm, saying he'd been detained under terrorism legislation for not disclosing the PIN for his phone, haven't read any updates since then.
 
Got into it with couple of Tommy many names supporters who are going on that march tomorrow, on another football forum, last night. There really are no words strong enough to describe those pond scum. Apparently I'm a nonce but anyone who thinks an adult should go to prison for abusing a child is a cunt and for good measures one of them finished off by threatening to rape my sister. 🙄Here's hoping they get a good kick in by the police and end up behind bars with their beloved leader by the end of the night.
 
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