Toby Young is a c0nt

[two sheds]

Having fixed schools, it's only natural that he turns his not inconsiderable skillsets loose on hospitals

"fucked" I think the word you're looking for is "fucked".

 

[chilango]

There is a tendency on the left to single individuals out either for ‘saying the unsayable’ or as somehow embodying a specifically unattractive/unacceptable view or politics.

I find it deeply unattractive as a method for two specific reasons:

1. It can often look like virtue signalling or even worse a quite moralistic form of politics.

2. More importantly it often overlooks the economic, political and cultural processes that produce these individuals.

I guess it’s a matter of how you want to expend energy. A lot of people I know seem to be more exercised about attacking, exposing, thinking about balloons like Young rather than thinking deeply and acting to address the structures that throw them up and give them oxygen.

For me, Toby Young and all other Toby Young’s are merely a symptom of the disease. Curing the disease also cleans away the unpleasant effects of it.

True. But until the vaccine is up and running all we can do is treat the symptoms.

(I'm being tongue in cheek, ideally we shouldn't give his ilk any additional oxygen - metaphorically or literally)

 

[NoXion]

I wish it could be literal.

"Why are you turning purple? Shouldn't you pull yourself up by your bootstraps and start synthesizing your own oxygen?"

 

[RD2003]

There is a tendency on the left to single individuals out either for ‘saying the unsayable’ or as somehow embodying a specifically unattractive/unacceptable view or politics.

I find it deeply unattractive as a method for two specific reasons:

1. It can often look like virtue signalling or even worse a quite moralistic form of politics.

2. More importantly it often overlooks the economic, political and cultural processes that produce these individuals.

I guess it’s a matter of how you want to expend energy. A lot of people I know seem to be more exercised about attacking, exposing, thinking about balloons like Young rather than thinking deeply and acting to address the structures that throw them up and give them oxygen.

For me, Toby Young and all other Toby Young’s are merely a symptom of the disease. Curing the disease also cleans away the unpleasant effects of it.

Exactly. Today's left has to find something better than self-righteousness and outbursts of moral outrage.

After all, anybody who is working class must have experienced that people saying 'outrageous' things is more or less an everyday occurence.

 

[William of Walworth]

There is a tendency on the left to single individuals out either for ‘saying the unsayable’ or as somehow embodying a specifically unattractive/unacceptable view or politics.

I find it deeply unattractive as a method for two specific reasons:

1. It can often look like virtue signalling or even worse a quite moralistic form of politics.
2. More importantly it often overlooks the economic, political and cultural processes that produce these individuals.

I guess it’s a matter of how you want to expend energy. A lot of people I know seem to be more exercised about attacking, exposing, thinking about balloons like Young rather than thinking deeply and acting to address the structures that throw them up and give them oxygen.

For me, Toby Young and all other Toby Young’s are merely a symptom of the disease. Curing the disease also cleans away the unpleasant effects of it.

Hard to disagree with any of that. Fair points.
But to be a bit fair to myself, it took the lockdown and a lot more time than I normally have, to pay much attention at all to Toby Young and this thread! Or, more importantly, to find enough time to read up in other threads on the more serious political and scientific stuff around what's happening at the moment.

IMO it's perfectly possible to do broader, more political/socio-economic/scientific/historical/etc. analysis on here (or in my case, read plenty of that ) AND aim some online kicks at the worst exponents of right-wing shit.
Doing the latter at the expense of the former is a waste of time true, but people can do both!
And it can be fun

 

[equationgirl]

Toby has skillsets DaveCinzano ?

 

[ViolentPanda]

Toby has skillsets DaveCinzano ?

I think that Herr Cinzano has confused "skillsets" and "bullshit".

 

[19force8]

This by his wife

Cut from the Spectator and pasted so you don't have to bleach your eyes after reading Taki's wife's glowing encomium

Toby spent the first week of lockdown in bed convinced he had coronavirus. He didn’t. He is a complete hypochondriac at the best of times and this pandemic has sent his anxiety levels through the roof. He was so worried about catching it that the stress led to a bout of shingles which is what actually laid him up. But Toby was convinced and started taking hydroxychloroquine, vitamin C and anything else he’d read might alleviate symptoms. There was also a lot of temperature--taking, as well as doing some ridiculous breathing test that has now been discredited.

Having recovered, Toby’s life has carried on pretty much as normal in lockdown. My life, on the other hand, has changed quite dramatically. Work has dried up and my days are now filled with domestic chores, which with six people in the house all day every day can be quite daunting. So you can imagine how much I have welcomed comments from Tobe such as: ‘We seem to be managing really well without our cleaner.’

Actually, I do have one other job — I have to go through the papers each morning removing any articles relating to evidence that it may be possible to be re-infected with Covid-19. I don’t think I can handle watching Toby fretting again over which combination of medications to take.

One upside is that lockdown means Toby has more time to bond with our new puppy, and seeing him playing with her in the garden is very heartwarming

 

[Lurdan]

This by his wife

Cut from the Spectator and pasted so you don't have to bleach your eyes after reading Taki's wife's glowing encomium

I think to fully appreciate this you have to read his column in The Spectator a couple of weeks ago

I’m recovering – but I glimpsed the coronavirus cliff edge - The Spectator (archived version)

So I’ve had the virus. Or rather, I think I have. Ordinary mortals can no longer get tested by the NHS unless they’re admitted to hospital and I was nowhere near that point. I self-diagnosed, based on having some of the symptoms, and took to my bed. Needless to say, Caroline is convinced the whole thing was a sham to avoid doing the housework, which has increased exponentially during lockdown thanks to four kids and no cleaner. Now that I’m out of bed she’s exacting sweet revenge.

Of course having heroically recovered from this awful bout of man flu corona

That was last week and, thankfully, I haven’t experienced phase two. I’m now out of bed and even though I’m not fighting fit, I’m gradually getting better. On a couple of occasions I’ve overdone it — played badminton with my kids in the garden, for instance — and the following day felt terrible. But if Covid-19 is the cause of my illness, I’m one of the lucky ones. I self-medicated with chloroquine, zinc and vitamin C, which may have helped, although none are clinically proven treatments.

the loathsome thick cunt can now fully devote his expertise as a survivor to his project

Lockdown Sceptics

'Stay sane' in a world that this fucker can thrive in ? He really is having a laugh.

 

[equationgirl]

Where was tony getting the chloroquine from, I wonder?

 

[Proper Tidy]

This by his wife

Cut from the Spectator and pasted so you don't have to bleach your eyes after reading Taki's wife's glowing encomium

Fucking hell, you have to feel sorry for her, burdened like that. Synopsis is my husband is a stupid difficult selfish prick and a complete fucking infant.

 

[FridgeMagnet]

Eh, she married the cunt, he was hardly hiding anything beforehand.

 

[equationgirl]

We can only hope she'll snap and he'll be under the patio before this is over...

 

[Proper Tidy]

Eh, she married the cunt, he was hardly hiding anything beforehand.

Ah yeah I'm sure shes a prick too but still, imagine

 

[isvicthere?]

This morning he looked a prize twat on Good Morning Britain, with his strategically placed "Free Speech" poster on his bookshelf behind him, while simultaneously getting owned by john Sweeney.

 

[stavros]

This morning he looked a prize twat on Good Morning Britain,

That's an almost admirable achievement, if his competition was Piers Morgan.

 

[isvicthere?]

That's an almost admirable achievement, if his competition was Piers Morgan.

 

[steveseagull]

Toby has a bit of an issue. His Free Speech Union stuck up for Nadia Whittome and it's members were not happy about it

 

[19force8]

"Siri, show me something to lift the spirits of the nation"

This lockdown may kill me

I have a new job, which is maintaining a website called Lockdown Sceptics (lockdownsceptics.org). It’s a compendium of evidence that the lockdown is a needless act of self-harm that will almost certainly cause a greater loss of life than it prevents. I set it up myself, so I can’t complain, but...

www.spectator.co.uk

 

[Dogsauce]

This by his wife

Cut from the Spectator and pasted so you don't have to bleach your eyes after reading Taki's wife's glowing encomium

Tbh, I imagine arse to tongue is a valid transmission pathway, and we know Johnson had it, so he probably wasn’t making it up.

 

[Badgers]

 

[Sue]

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'Never flew on the Lolita express.' God, he's fucking vile.

 

[Doodler]

It seems strange a grown man giving himself the Twitter handle of 'toadmeister'. It's more like something a kid at the Tolkein/Horrible Histories/Harry Potter phase would think up.

 

[Pickman's model]

It seems strange a grown man giving himself the Twitter handle of 'toadmeister'. It's more like something a kid at the Tolkein/Horrible Histories/Harry Potter phase would think up.

He's more of a turdmeister

 

[Steel Icarus]

a grown man

Therein lies your confusion.

 

[Doodler]

'Punch' magazine was once the proper container for the talents of the Toby Youngs of this world. A bit of self-deprecating humour and complaints about modern life. What happened to town clerks? If a sign says kids travel free on buses, can you take a baby goat on board? etc etc.

 

[two sheds]

Did they use to do 'All aboard the Lolita Express' articles though?

 

[equationgirl]

That's an appalling way to describe the situation, 'lolita express', fuck that's grim.

 

[Doodler]

Did they use to do 'All aboard the Lolita Express' articles though?

Of course not. Punch closed in 2002, not that anyone would have noticed.

 

[two sheds]

Of course not.

Wouldn't have suited Toby Young then.