Tiverton and Honiton by-election
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Dogsauce
I’ve got Skol but I’m not a Scholar
Thing is, the cabinet is such a bunch of talentless non-entities that most of them wouldn’t rock the boat by resigning as nobody else would give them a job. That’s a deliberate strategy by Johnson, keep them dependent on his patronage. Also nobody he elevates has the skills or public appeal to take over his job. The party is short on options to replace him. He’s going to be there shitting in the bed for a while longer.
andysays
Love and solidarity
That would certainly help, but the way he's effectively surrounded himself with those dependent on him rather than being cabinet members because their actual merit means that ministerial resignations are less likely than if any of the cabinet had some independence.
Still may happen eventually, but I wouldn't to try and predict who might be the first to resign.
As Dogsauce has already pointed out
This.
Many of this cabinet of total mediocrities will never be ministers or mps again after this government, so they are pretty unlikely to take him down.
Zapp Brannigan
Built like a steakhouse, handles like a bistro
Every time Johnson has been in trouble, he has a mini re-shuffle to (a) give a few headlines, and (b) to reward those who've showed blind loyalty by going on GMB to defend the indefensible.
No cabinet member will go on a point of principle, by this point I think we've safely established they don't have any. But any who get wind the next reshuffle sees them out of the inner circle? Petty vindictiveness is a character trait which has been rewarded in this government.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
they'll be bumped up to the lords
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
doing a sad little dance still
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
dorries and fabricant were grown in vats. but as they emerged from the gloop (this is a technical term for artificial primordial soup) the horror they engendered in their creator made him sick with terror and in a fit of remorseful anger he destroyed the apparatus and plans. sadly dorries and fabricant had by this time escaped from the laboratory.
agricola
a genuine importer of owls
I think its increasingly obvious that he ends up doing that, and then created some kind of temporal anomaly looping back sixty years.
The best evidence of this is when you consider what the child of Dorries and Fabricant clones would look like, were they to overly interact - pale-faced, ridiculous light coloured hair, doughy, utterly amoral, fond of hearing their own voice and with a partiality for coffeemate and similar powdered substances.
Kaka Tim
Half Arsed and Slapdash till I Die
Mps in fear of losing their seats are the most likely want Johnson out. There is no convention that his replacement would have to call a ge. The new pm would almost certainly wait until they had to before calling an election (late 2024).
As for a confidence vote, no tory MP is going to vote no confidence and trigger a general election (and presumably be ejected from the party) . A no confidence vote would Only suceed if they lost their majority in Parliament. That's what happened to callaghan in 1979.
As for a confidence vote, no tory MP is going to vote no confidence and trigger a general election (and presumably be ejected from the party) . A no confidence vote would Only suceed if they lost their majority in Parliament. That's what happened to callaghan in 1979.
rubbershoes
not the only raver in the village
It was only ever a gimmick
tim
EXPLODED TIM! (Help me!!!)
As oppose to whatever minor public school instilled sense of entitlement that led Corbyn and May feel they were entitled to carry on.
A380
How do I change this 'custom title' thing then?
it was a line in the negotiations to get Clegg on board. An example of how one parliament can't fetter a future one.
tim
EXPLODED TIM! (Help me!!!)
Yes, exactly he was even less popular with his parliamentary party than Johnson is with his. At least Johnson scraped a victory in that parliamentary vote of confidenceæ in 2016 Corbyn lost a similar vote 172 to 40, but still stayed on as leader for another 3 years. That is the way British parliamentary politics seems to work at the moment.
Labour MPs pass no-confidence motion in Jeremy Corbyn
prunus
Tick tock.
Not all the membership by any means. I don’t know if it was even a majority.
bluescreen
tofu eating wokerati
But the thing is now the FTPA has been repealed, calling a GE is in the sole power of the
The Act includes an ‘ouster clause’ that states questions relating to the use of the powers, preliminary work on dissolution and the extent of the powers cannot be questioned by the courts.
two sheds
Least noticed poster 2007
I think it might have been
Figure 1. Membership of UK political parties, 2002 to 2018. ['000's]
prunus
Tick tock.
Ah, you might well be right there then, I hadn’t seen those figures.
Although a number of labour-supporting non-members became card-carrying specifically to vote against Momentum entryism in local parties*, so I guess we’ll never actually know.
* source - personal experience of friends and family.
two sheds
Least noticed poster 2007
True, although "Corbyn was elected party leader in a landslide victory on 12 September 2015 with 59.5% of first-preference votes in the first round of voting.[12]"
en.wikipedia.org
Labour Party leadership of Jeremy Corbyn - Wikipedia
prunus
Tick tock.
True, although "Corbyn was elected party leader in a landslide victory on 12 September 2015 with 59.5% of first-preference votes in the first round of voting.[12]"
Labour Party leadership of Jeremy Corbyn - Wikipedia
Point in favour of the defence then
