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The Tuts make dubious allegations after Brixton Windmill gig

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If you don't believe the Tuts you are a misogynist woman hating scum. I think the same thing applies if you think their "music" is shit and their fans all have bad breath.
 
Afterthought corner: in their little "version" of events they first describe Seamus as "a fiftysomething man", as if his age is in any way relevant to what occurred.

Since they chose to play the "-ism" game, that's an "-ism" innit?
 
isvicthere? said:
Afterthought corner: in their little "version" of events they first describe Seamus as "a fiftysomething man", as if his age is in any way relevant to what occurred.

Since they chose to play the "-ism" game, that's an "-ism" innit?
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Less obviously so than when simsimsimsimsimsism(sim).... called him the racist "old man landlord".
At least, I think it were she.
 
isvicthere? said:
Afterthought corner: in their little "version" of events they first describe Seamus as "a fiftysomething man", as if his age is in any way relevant to what occurred.

Since they chose to play the "-ism" game, that's an "-ism" innit?
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They're making Seamus sound like London_Calling..
 
This thread shows that people throwing around unfounded accusations about things to which there are multiple witnesses are likely to come unstuck fairly quickly.

But unfortunately, some of the earlier posts also show that among regular posters are those willing to err towards brushing aside allegations of racist violence before there is clear evidence either way, and who appear to be motivated in doing so by the esteem in which they hold the person accused.

There would be more satisfaction in showing up a libelous bulshitter if some people hadn't been so candid about whose story they'd prefer to believe before the story was clear.
 
slowjoe said:
This thread shows that people throwing around unfounded accusations about things to which there are multiple witnesses are likely to come unstuck fairly quickly.

But unfortunately, some of the earlier posts also show that among regular posters are those willing to err towards brushing aside allegations of racist violence before there is clear evidence either way, and who appear to be motivated in doing so by the esteem in which they hold the person accused.

There would be more satisfaction in showing up a libelous bulshitter if some people hadn't been so candid about whose story they'd prefer to believe before the story was clear.
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name names :mad:
 
slowjoe said:
This thread shows that people throwing around unfounded accusations about things to which there are multiple witnesses are likely to come unstuck fairly quickly.

But unfortunately, some of the earlier posts also show that among regular posters are those willing to err towards brushing aside allegations of racist violence before there is clear evidence either way, and who appear to be motivated in doing so by the esteem in which they hold the person accused.

There would be more satisfaction in showing up a libelous bulshitter if some people hadn't been so candid about whose story they'd prefer to believe before the story was clear.
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Not really true. The reason why the story both gained prominence here and support was garnered for Seamus was because of this site and poster's historical links with the Windmill. One poster even works as a promoter and others have put on their own nights there! Lots have socialised there and some clearly still do. I've even been there myself numerously, although not for a while.

These racism allegations are something new. They haven't cropped up before which lends Seamus the benefit of the doubt. The Tuts' facebook and twitter accounts bragged about a number of things including causing trouble at gigs and 'using the sexist card' against all and sundry which was witnessed on this very thread early on if you bothered to read it. For those of us that weren't there we're left with a balance of probabilities.

Which leads us where?
 
Well, Brixton Hatter said 'if you feel that strongly about it', which is a pretty shocking down-playing of an alleged racist assault.

Blagsta said that Nadia 'sounds like an arsehole' - which as it turns out is probably true, bit was a pretty fucking interesting to find relevant at that stage.
 
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